Topic: typo in 3.3 clause 4?


Author: "Ivan Novick" <ivan@0x4849.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:59:22 CST
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Hi,

This clause says "[Note: a namespace name or a class template name must
be unique in its declarative region (7.3.2 clause 14)"

However there is no clause 14 in 7.3.2.  I think the correct reference
should be 7.3.2 clause 4.

I checked the draft doc from the web in addition to a bound copy and
they both look the same.

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Author: pete@versatilecoding.com (Pete Becker)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:22:15 GMT
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Ivan Novick wrote:
>
> This clause says "[Note: a namespace name or a class template name must
> be unique in its declarative region (7.3.2 clause 14)"
>
> However there is no clause 14 in 7.3.2.  I think the correct reference
> should be 7.3.2 clause 4.
>

It's a somewhat confusing reference, but it's right. It refers to two
places, section 7.3.2 and clause 14. The standard doesn't have
references to individual paragraphs, only to numbered sections.

Incidentally, the usual convention for referring to a particular
paragraph is 3.3/4. Even better, [basic.scope](3.3)/4 or some such. The
section tags stay the same as the draft develops. The section numbers
change.

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Author: "Ivan Novick" <ivan@0x4849.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:18:59 CST
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Pete Becker wrote:
> Ivan Novick wrote:
> >
> > This clause says "[Note: a namespace name or a class template name must
> > be unique in its declarative region (7.3.2 clause 14)"
> >
> > However there is no clause 14 in 7.3.2.  I think the correct reference
> > should be 7.3.2 clause 4.
> >
>
> It's a somewhat confusing reference, but it's right. It refers to two
> places, section 7.3.2 and clause 14. The standard doesn't have
> references to individual paragraphs, only to numbered sections.
>
> Incidentally, the usual convention for referring to a particular
> paragraph is 3.3/4. Even better, [basic.scope](3.3)/4 or some such. The
> section tags stay the same as the draft develops. The section numbers
> change.
>
I see.  So apparently a "Clause" is the same thing as a "Chapter".  I
was thinking a clause was a paragraph number, since all the chapters
are titled "Chapter X" and not "Clause X".

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Author: Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:49:43 CST
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Ivan Novick wrote:
>>
> I see.  So apparently a "Clause" is the same thing as a "Chapter".

Yes.

> I
> was thinking a clause was a paragraph number, since all the chapters
> are titled "Chapter X" and not "Clause X".
>

Oops, I need to fix that. The 2003 standard just has the clause number
at the start of each clause. The "Chapter" is an artifact of the change
from troff to LaTeX, after the 2003 standard.

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Author: gennaro_pruota@yahoo.com (Gennaro Prota)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:58:03 GMT
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:22:15 GMT, Pete Becker wrote:

>Ivan Novick wrote:
>>
>> This clause says "[Note: a namespace name or a class template name must
>> be unique in its declarative region (7.3.2 clause 14)"
>>
>> However there is no clause 14 in 7.3.2.  I think the correct reference
>> should be 7.3.2 clause 4.
>>
>
>It's a somewhat confusing reference, but it's right. It refers to two
>places, section 7.3.2 and clause 14.

Why not making an innocent editorial fix here? :-) Also, could you
please have a look at Ivan's post on c.l.c++.m and my reply there? I
suspect there's a defect on this but I haven't checked the whole 7.3.

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Author: Gennaro Prota <gennaro_pruota@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:05:32 CST
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:49:43 CST, Pete Becker wrote:

>The 2003 standard just has the clause number at the start of each
>clause. The "Chapter" is an artifact of the change from troff to
>LaTeX, after the 2003 standard.

How nice :-) Could I ask what version of troff?

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