"Alf P. Steinbach":

> If the csc++ moderators allow, springing out of an already way off-topic
> thread ;-), if an article of yours is rejected from a moderated group,
> do you actually receive the rejection notice at [fgothamNO@SPAM.com]?


I don't provide a valid e-mail address on Usenet.


> My interest in this is of course partly on what the quoted statement
> rests, i.e. the csc++ moderation policy: have you actually experienced
> /censorship/ in csc++?


Yes. I'd say about 50% of my posts don't show up. This of course could be
down to things other than censorship.

I'm all for banning personal attacks such as:

    "F--- you, you stupid son of a b----."

But we should be able to use language such as:

    "You don't know what you're talking about -- spend more time reading
books on C++ rather than trying to teach."

Semi-combative language like this is human nature in keeping a discussion
alive and vibrant, and attacking your competitor's viewpoint in the spirit
of competition rather than downright hostility. We don't have to keep
everything passive every minute of the day.

Any time I've injected half a micron of enthusiasm into a post, it's been
rejected.

--

Frederick Gotham

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Frederick Gotham wrote:
.
> But we should be able to use language such as:
>
>     "You don't know what you're talking about -- spend more time reading
> books on C++ rather than trying to teach."
>
> Semi-combative language like this is human nature in keeping a discussion
> alive and vibrant, and attacking your competitor's viewpoint in the spirit
> of competition rather than downright hostility. We don't have to keep
> everything passive every minute of the day.
>
> Any time I've injected half a micron of enthusiasm into a post, it's been
> rejected.

I can't see anything wrong with a moderator keeping out "alive and
vibrant"  attacks like that.  Human nature is to escalate combative
language like that, and as far as I'm concerned, that IS downright
hostility. You can tone such language down (a LOT), and still come
nowhere near the point where you're being passive.

I'm sometimes worried that I've pushed the limits, but I've posted 2712
messages under my current userid to comp.std.c++, and have had only a
dozen or so rejected by the moderators, mostly for duplicating what
someone else had already said. If you're getting half your messages
rejected, your language is far too "vibrant".

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