Topic: dear comp.std.c++ readers
Author: tomstdenis@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 09:40:17 GMT Raw View
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It's getting a bit tiresome seeing one misguided American after another with
their cutsie little yellow or red-white-blue ribbons on their outsized SUVs.
Yeah, I guess it's the thing to do; maybe part of that whole soccer-mom
culture. Unfortunately, the only thing they demonstrate is that the person
behind the wheel is a clueless, gullible, misguided, nitwit.
If foreign invaders landed on our soil, as we have done in Iraq, I would be
the first one to take up arms and repel them. (I suppose that would make me
an 'insurgent' by OUR logic.) This, and other aggressive governments have
always done their utmost to make it APPEAR as if committing yourself to kill
in feuds on distant shores that have nothing to do with the welfare of the
citizenry is somehow patriotic.
It is not.
Enlisting in the armed forces, in the absence of a real and impending
foreign threat, is no different that hiring yourself as a paid assassin . .
the only difference is, you're not getting paid enough. But let's take a
realistic look at exactly WHO joins up in an all-volunteer army.
The first group are those who join (during peacetime) for the benefits: to
get an education, or because it seems a reasonable career path. Consider
carefully! Realize that you are gambling with your humanity. Once you sign
that form, you sign away your right to say: "No, that is an atrocity." You
put your abilities, including the ability to kill, at the disposal of proven
liars, psychopaths . . . enemies of humanity. Do you think that every German
soldier in World War II who helped load Jews into cattle cars was a
cold-blooded killer? Most were poor kids, just like you, who got caught up
in the patriotic frenzy. Once you're in, you're IN. You lose the ability to
stop killing until they tell you so. This not only makes you less than
human, it makes you less than an animal, for even the animals retain their
freedom of self determination.
The second group are the simple minded, who fall for patriotic entreaties
about defending democracy, Mom, apple pie; in other words, all the
traditional government propaganda. Do you think Soviet lads subjugated their
neighbors throughout the world because they thought the Soviet Union was an
EVIL empire? No, they were fighting for MOM, and whatever passes for apple
pie in Russia. Step back and examine the lies your government is handing
you, and ask yourself if they have the ring of truth. Do you want to be one
of the murderers in uniform who opened up on their fellow citizens at Kent
State? When you put on that uniform, you give up all autonomy, and become
nothing more than a weapon, to be used for whatever evil purposes the
scoundrels in government demand (and, if you look carefully, you will
discover that the only interests THEY serve are those of the big businesses
that own them.)
Finally, you have the hard-core psychopaths. These are the people who WANT
to kill. Murder, torture, rape; THESE are the American values upon which
THIS group is focused. The cause doesn't matter, they're after the thrill
that only warfare can provide.
Just remember: killing for George W. Bush, or for George H.W. Bush, or for
Lyndon B. Johnson, or for Richard M. Nixon is not the same as defending
yourself, your family, your friends, or your country. Don't be a dupe. Don't
Enlist!
Remember -- supporting the troops means supporting Bush aggression,
profiteering, and war crimes. Here's an idea: why not take those ribbons,
dip them in blood, and mail them to the White House?
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Author: hyrosen@mail.com (Hyman Rosen)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:10:52 GMT Raw View
I assume the moderators didn't actually let this through,
and that it was spammed to the n.g. I've already reported
the message to abuse@gmail.com.
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Author: chris@phaedsys.org (Chris Hills)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 05:21:52 GMT Raw View
In article <E1EAp7i-0000Va-00@chx400.switch.ch>, Hyman Rosen
<hyrosen@mail.com> writes
>I assume the moderators didn't actually let this through,
>and that it was spammed to the n.g. I've already reported
>the message to abuse@gmail.com.
>
This post has turned up in several NG's I see and has apparently faked
the headers to get past moderated groups. The moderator probably saw it
after we did.
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Author: j.r.versteegh_removethis_at_casema_dot_nl@dr4.euro.net (Jaap Versteegh)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 05:23:06 GMT Raw View
Hyman Rosen wrote:
> I assume the moderators didn't actually let this through,
> and that it was spammed to the n.g. I've already reported
> the message to abuse@gmail.com.
Hmmm, though the message is wildely off topic, did you really have to report it?
The wise man knows when to flex the rules.
Jaap Versteegh
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Author: kst-u@mib.org (Keith Thompson)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 04:15:05 GMT Raw View
j.r.versteegh_removethis_at_casema_dot_nl@dr4.euro.net (Jaap Versteegh) writes:
> Hyman Rosen wrote:
>> I assume the moderators didn't actually let this through,
>> and that it was spammed to the n.g. I've already reported
>> the message to abuse@gmail.com.
> Hmmm, though the message is wildely off topic, did you really have
> to report it? The wise man knows when to flex the rules.
It's not just off-topic. It's spam, posted to hundreds of newsgroups,
many of them moderated. It's also falsely and maliciously attributed
to someone who had nothing to do with it.
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San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
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