Topic: C++ Standard Expiration Date?


Author: vm_usenet@yahoo.com (vm_usenet)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:52:47 GMT
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I recently read an article which mentioned that each ANSI standard has
a clear and defined expiration date, by which a new, updated standard
is to be conjured. Is this true? If so, what is the expiration date of
the current C++ Standard? The Standard, as far as I've seen, does not
specify such a date...

If the Standard has such a date, what is the status of the new
Standard which will be released?

regards,

vm

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Author: "P.J. Plauger" <pjp@dinkumware.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:48:05 GMT
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"vm_usenet" <vm_usenet@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c09aca51.0109260755.3c2508c3@posting.google.com...

> I recently read an article which mentioned that each ANSI standard has
> a clear and defined expiration date, by which a new, updated standard
> is to be conjured. Is this true? If so, what is the expiration date of
> the current C++ Standard? The Standard, as far as I've seen, does not
> specify such a date...
>
> If the Standard has such a date, what is the status of the new
> Standard which will be released?

It's not like baloney in the supermarket. Rather, ISO rules say that
five years after the approval of an ISO standard the responsible committee
must recommend that the standard a) be re-endorsed, b) be revised, or c)
be retired. I've seen all three things happen over the years. It's pretty
clear, however, that active languages like C and C++ will see their
standards revised over the coming years, as C has been over the past
decade.

P.J. Plauger
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Author: Ron Natalie <ron@sensor.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:14:41 GMT
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vm_usenet wrote:
>
> I recently read an article which mentioned that each ANSI standard has
> a clear and defined expiration date, by which a new, updated standard
> is to be conjured. Is this true? If so, what is the expiration date of
> the current C++ Standard? The Standard, as far as I've seen, does not
> specify such a date...
>
> If the Standard has such a date, what is the status of the new
> Standard which will be released?

No, there is no such thing.  What there is, is a general prohibition that
the Standard not be revised for nine years after it is adopted.  You can
expect that there will certainly be revisions to it after that time, but the
old one doesn't mean the old one has any built in obsolescence.

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Author: Francis Glassborow <francis.glassborow@ntlworld.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:43:49 GMT
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In article <c09aca51.0109260755.3c2508c3@posting.google.com>, vm_usenet
<vm_usenet@yahoo.com> writes
>I recently read an article which mentioned that each ANSI standard has
>a clear and defined expiration date, by which a new, updated standard
>is to be conjured. Is this true? If so, what is the expiration date of
>the current C++ Standard? The Standard, as far as I've seen, does not
>specify such a date...

Possibly that is true for ANSI, I do not know, but it is not true,
AFAIK, for ISO standards.

>
>If the Standard has such a date, what is the status of the new
>Standard which will be released?

Even given the context of your first paragraph I have failed to parse
this into a meaningful question.


Francis Glassborow
I offer my sympathy and prayers to all those who are suffering
as a result of the events of September 11 2001.

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Author: comeau@panix.com (Greg Comeau)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:52:18 GMT
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In article <3BB26A26.1E417F1D@sensor.com>, Ron Natalie  <ron@sensor.com> wrote:
>vm_usenet wrote:
>> I recently read an article which mentioned that each ANSI standard has
>> a clear and defined expiration date, by which a new, updated standard
>> is to be conjured.....
>No, there is no such thing.  What there is, is a general prohibition that
>the Standard not be revised for nine years after it is adopted.  You can
>expect that there will certainly be revisions to it after that time, but the
>old one doesn't mean the old one has any built in obsolescence.

I've never heard anything about nine years.  I had for a long
time believed that work must begin after 5 years, but I now
understand that just be a general suggestion and not a requirement.
Anyway, it looks like C++ will probably begin revision around
the 5 year point.
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