Topic: C++ compilers for Windows
Author: "Paul Lutus" <nospam@nosite.com>
Date: 2000/03/01 Raw View
[ mod: sorry about the continuation of this technically OT thread. I believe
it has sufficient merit to continue a while longer. I hope you agree. ]
> Only described; not explained in detail. There are no details of the
> command line options for either the compiler or linker.
I concur. I have carefully examined the "free" Borland c++ 5.5 compiler. The
documentation is deliberately crippled. Many links in the help file are
broken, in particular all references to details of the command-line options.
The compiler looks promising, but without this essential data, one is led to
the conclusion that it is a transparent marketing ploy, not a real
contribution to the family of free C++ compilers.
On Borland's site there is no online support whatsoever -- not a word.
This "free" offering may backfire for Borland. The C++ developer community
is accustomed to a higher level of dedication and openness, even(*) for a
free application.
* one is tempted to say "especially" for a free application.
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Ross Smith <ross.s@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> [This has drifted well off topic for comp.std.c++, but I want to get the
> facts straight to avoid misleading potential users]
>
> "Geert-Jan Giezeman" <geert@cs.uu.nl> wrote in message
> news:88e5iv$8ou$1@krant.cs.uu.nl...
> > In <88cj11$jnv$1@news.ihug.co.nz> "Ross Smith" <ross.s@ihug.co.nz>
> writes:
> >
> > >"Jeremy Jancsary" <jancsary@gmx.net> wrote in message
> > >news:38A9A25A.92304794@gmx.net...
> > >> Roshan Revankar wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards
> > >compliant
> > >>
> > >> Check
> > >>
> > >> http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
> > >>
> > >> For the Borland C++ 5.5 compiler. It's free and one of the most
> ANSI
> > >> compliant compilers available for Windows.
> > >
> > >However, it comes with no documentation and is therefore useless to
> > >anyone who doesn't already have the commercial version.
> >
> > Not true. The distribution contains a directory Help, where the
> command line
> > tools are described.
>
> Only described; not explained in detail. There are no details of the
> command line options for either the compiler or linker. Despite several
> hours of trial and error, I never managed to get a nontrivial
> application successfully compiled and linked with BCC.
>
> --
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> that it works, I haven't tested it." -- Donald Knuth
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Author: janm@penfold.transactionsite.com (Jan Mikkelsen)
Date: 2000/03/01 Raw View
In article <76Lu4.25060$bz2.4736965@tw12.nn.bcandid.com>,
Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.com> wrote:
>I concur. I have carefully examined the "free" Borland c++ 5.5 compiler. The
>documentation is deliberately crippled. Many links in the help file are
>broken, in particular all references to details of the command-line options.
Borland recently posted on their support server (at forums.borland.com) that
the help had not been deliberately crippled, they are aware of the problem,
and will fix it. They also claim it works on some machines, although one
of those machines is certainly not mine.
Jan Mikkelsen
janm@transactionsite.com
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Author: olczyk@interaccess.com (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Date: 2000/03/04 Raw View
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:49:07 CST, "Paul Lutus" <nospam@nosite.com>
wrote:
>[ mod: sorry about the continuation of this technically OT thread. I believe
>it has sufficient merit to continue a while longer. I hope you agree. ]
>
>> Only described; not explained in detail. There are no details of the
>> command line options for either the compiler or linker.
>
>I concur. I have carefully examined the "free" Borland c++ 5.5 compiler. The
>documentation is deliberately crippled. Many links in the help file are
>broken, in particular all references to details of the command-line options.
>
Sorry to prolong a OT thread, but I think there is an unintentional
misrepresentation here that I wish to correct. If you post examples of
missing links, I can check them against the commercial version help.
Very likely these are links that were not deliberately croppled, but
rather links that are crippled in the commercial version too. Now you
see what we Borland customers have to put up with ( heavy heavy sigh )
:(
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Author: "Roshan Revankar" <rrevankar@flashmail.com>
Date: 2000/02/15 Raw View
Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards compliant
Thanks,
Roshan
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Author: Jim Cobban <thesnaguy@hotmail.com>
Date: 2000/02/15 Raw View
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Roshan Revankar wrote:
> Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards compliant
There are no C++ compilers which implement all of the standard. Go to
egcs.cygnus.com and look around for the cygwin32 package.
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Author: Jeremy Jancsary <jancsary@gmx.net>
Date: 2000/02/16 Raw View
Roshan Revankar wrote:
>
> Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards compliant
Check
http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
For the Borland C++ 5.5 compiler. It's free and one of the most ANSI
compliant compilers available for Windows.
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Author: "Ross Smith" <ross.s@ihug.co.nz>
Date: 2000/02/16 Raw View
"Jeremy Jancsary" <jancsary@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Roshan Revankar wrote:
> >
> > Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards
compliant
>
> Check
>
> http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
>
> For the Borland C++ 5.5 compiler. It's free and one of the most ANSI
> compliant compilers available for Windows.
However, it comes with no documentation and is therefore useless to
anyone who doesn't already have the commercial version.
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Author: geert@cs.uu.nl (Geert-Jan Giezeman)
Date: 2000/02/17 Raw View
In <88cj11$jnv$1@news.ihug.co.nz> "Ross Smith" <ross.s@ihug.co.nz> writes:
>"Jeremy Jancsary" <jancsary@gmx.net> wrote in message
>news:38A9A25A.92304794@gmx.net...
>> Roshan Revankar wrote:
>> >
>> > Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards
>compliant
>>
>> Check
>>
>> http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
>>
>> For the Borland C++ 5.5 compiler. It's free and one of the most ANSI
>> compliant compilers available for Windows.
>
>However, it comes with no documentation and is therefore useless to
>anyone who doesn't already have the commercial version.
Not true. The distribution contains a directory Help, where the command line
tools are described.
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Author: "Ross Smith" <ross.s@ihug.co.nz>
Date: 2000/02/17 Raw View
[This has drifted well off topic for comp.std.c++, but I want to get the
facts straight to avoid misleading potential users]
"Geert-Jan Giezeman" <geert@cs.uu.nl> wrote in message
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> In <88cj11$jnv$1@news.ihug.co.nz> "Ross Smith" <ross.s@ihug.co.nz>
writes:
>
> >"Jeremy Jancsary" <jancsary@gmx.net> wrote in message
> >news:38A9A25A.92304794@gmx.net...
> >> Roshan Revankar wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Can I find free C++ compilers for Windows that are standards
> >compliant
> >>
> >> Check
> >>
> >> http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
> >>
> >> For the Borland C++ 5.5 compiler. It's free and one of the most
ANSI
> >> compliant compilers available for Windows.
> >
> >However, it comes with no documentation and is therefore useless to
> >anyone who doesn't already have the commercial version.
>
> Not true. The distribution contains a directory Help, where the
command line
> tools are described.
Only described; not explained in detail. There are no details of the
command line options for either the compiler or linker. Despite several
hours of trial and error, I never managed to get a nontrivial
application successfully compiled and linked with BCC.
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