Valentin Bonnard <Bonnard.V@wanadoo.fr> writes:

[Are notes normative?]
> Is that a DR or a normal post ?

I took it as a normal post, just asking the question.

My guess was that there is some general ISO/IEC document explaining
the structure of standards, and what language to use (I think ITU-T
has a similar document in the A series). If that document was
normative, there would be no need to explain in every Internation
Standard what an example is and what a note is.

I still believe that there is such a document (perhaps a Guideline or
something), but I could not locate it. If anybody has more information
on that, please speak up.

Regards,
Martin
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In article <p6qiu8xptx3.fsf_-_@pandora.inst-inf-1.hu-berlin.de> Martin von Loewis <loewis@informatik.hu-berlin.de> writes:
>Valentin Bonnard <Bonnard.V@wanadoo.fr> writes:
>
>[Are notes normative?]
>> Is that a DR or a normal post ?
>
>I took it as a normal post, just asking the question.
>
>My guess was that there is some general ISO/IEC document explaining
>the structure of standards, and what language to use (I think ITU-T
>has a similar document in the A series). If that document was
>normative, there would be no need to explain in every Internation
>Standard what an example is and what a note is.
>
>I still believe that there is such a document (perhaps a Guideline or
>something), but I could not locate it. If anybody has more information
>on that, please speak up.

I could not locate said in Standard C++ either.
FWIW, my copy of ANSI C (not C++) explicitly states examples and such
are not part of the standard.  I do not know if the ISO version which
came about after it as I recall removes those words.

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Martin von Loewis <loewis@informatik.hu-berlin.de> wrote:


: My guess was that there is some general ISO/IEC document explaining
: the structure of standards, and what language to use (I think ITU-T
: has a similar document in the A series). If that document was
: normative, there would be no need to explain in every Internation
: Standard what an example is and what a note is.

: I still believe that there is such a document (perhaps a Guideline or
: something), but I could not locate it. If anybody has more information
: on that, please speak up.

Hum.  See 17.3.1.1[lib.structure.summary]/2

That covers notes and examples but not footnotes for the library.

See also 1.2[info.refs]/1

I guess:

1. The core language is missing something.

2. The core language inherits it from the C standard.

3. The entire standard inherits it from the information technology
standard and it is redundant in the library part.

I'm betting on ISO/IEC 2382, but not very much :)

John



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