Faisal Vali wrote:
>
> Anyone know if/when Bjarne S is going to write the next C++ book,
> updated with the newly approved ISO standard?
> I already own the annotated C++ reference manual (1995) (Ellis &
> Stroustrup); any one know if the difference between the approved
> standard and the resolutions printed within the book will be worth
> buying the new edition if and when it comes out?
> curious.
> thanks,
> -fais

Fais,

I just emailed him two days ago about the ARM (wasn't it 1990?).
He stated "There will be a complete replacement of the ARM in about
a year's time".

I didn't ask if he specifically would be the one revising it.
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In article <34AA71C9.74DD@biotrack.com>,
Faisal Vali  <fvali@biotrack.com> wrote:
>Anyone know if/when Bjarne S is going to write the next C++ book,
>updated with the newly approved ISO standard?

There's a 1997 edition of "The C++ Programming Language" by Stroustrup.  Is
that what you're asking about?  It was mentioned favorable in the
"Bookworm" column in the October issue of ";login".

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I doubt he'll be publishing a new book very soon, since he just released
the 3rd edition of "The C++ Programming Language" this past summer.
See this link from Bjarne's home page:
 http://www.research.att.com/~bs/3rd.html

It is based on the final draft of the proposed standard, which I doubt
will change enough to justify a new book.

n8

Faisal Vali wrote:
>
> Anyone know if/when Bjarne S is going to write the next C++ book,
> updated with the newly approved ISO standard?

<snip>

> thanks,
> -fais
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In article <34AAB1F4.468D@ccmail.com.spamless>,
nleon@ccmail.com.spamless (n8 Leon) wrote:

> [BS's new book] is based on the final draft of the proposed
> standard, which I doubt will change enough to justify a new
> book.

There might be an updated edition though.

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Barry Margolin <barmar@bbnplanet.com> wrote:

: In article <34AA71C9.74DD@biotrack.com>,
: Faisal Vali  <fvali@biotrack.com> wrote:
: >Anyone know if/when Bjarne S is going to write the next C++ book,
: >updated with the newly approved ISO standard?

: There's a 1997 edition of "The C++ Programming Language" by Stroustrup.  Is
: that what you're asking about?  It was mentioned favorable in the
: "Bookworm" column in the October issue of ";login".

That is a nice book, but it is not a new ARM.  Here is a paragraph
from the preface to that book which hints at a new ARM.  I thought
that I had read more in my 1st printing of C++PL3e about a co-author
for the other book and the wish for someone to write something like
that for the library.  My hard copy is elsewhere; so, this is from
BS's homepage.

 This book presents every major C++ language feature and the standard
 library.  It is organized around language and library facilities.
 However, features are presented in the context of their use.  That
 is, the focus is on the language as the tool for design and
 programming rather than on the language in itself.  This book
 demonstrates key techniques that make C++ effective and teaches the
 fundamental concepts necessary for mastery.  Except where llustrating
 technicalities, examples are taken from the domain of systems
 software.  A companion, ''The Annotated C++ Language Standard'',
 presents the complete language definition together with annotations
 to make it more comprehensible.

John
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Bjarne Stroustrup wrote in message ...

>Together with Andrew Koenig, I'm planning
>to produce an annotated version of the language clauses of the standard.
>This will take a long time to do and requires permission from ANSI and
>the ISO, so don't expect "The Annotated C++ Language Standard" to be
>available for another year.

This is great news! If we were to have "The Annotated C++ Language Standard"
by Stroustrup & Koenig on our bookshelves beside "The Standard C++ Library"
by Plauger (please, please), then we'd actually have the whole standard
correct and with *useful* annotations. Are there any rumors about the
Plauger book we've been half-expecting all these years?

Honestly, this is really a big deal. I hope that your new book is written in
the same useful, sensible, and easy-to-read style as the ARM. I hope that
there are no problem with the ANSI and ISO permissions; at least we'd know
that the authors are adding value with their annotations, rather than just
giving us an excuse to pick up a cheap copy of the standard. (Actually, if
the Language and Library are annotated separately, the two volumes will
probably cost as much as the "real thing," but based on the quality of past
work by Stroustrup, Koenig, and Plauger, the added value should be
enormous.)
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Anyone know if/when Bjarne S is going to write the next C++ book,
updated with the newly approved ISO standard?
I already own the annotated C++ reference manual (1995) (Ellis &
Stroustrup); any one know if the difference between the approved
standard and the resolutions printed within the book will be worth
buying the new edition if and when it comes out?
curious.
thanks,
-fais
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