Mark Nelson has a good book out about the STL. It's called "C++ Programmer's Guide
to the Standard Template Library". I found this to be easier to understand than
the Musser and Saini book which I also have.

Mark Koontz wrote:

> I found "STL for C++ Programmers" by Leen Ammeraal to be helpful,
> especially along with the Musser and Saini book.  I coded some CGI stuff
> using STL and it worked well for me.  I didn't see the original post, but I
> can't quite see what the beef is.  I haven't found any good info on the
> web, other than phd-type stuff.
>
> Mark Koontz (I'm new to newsgroups)
> markkoontz@ibm.net
>
> > I've been using stl for a couple years, and std::string and
> > std::stringstream for a while now.  ...
> >
> > First of all, where's all the documentation (other than the usual
> > stuff requiring a phd)?  Where are all the code samples?  What good
> > books are out there?  Why can't I find anything really good on the
> > net?
> >
> > If you know of some good docs, please let me know (via email).
> > If you also question this standard, well speak up.
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I found "STL for C++ Programmers" by Leen Ammeraal to be helpful,
especially along with the Musser and Saini book.  I coded some CGI stuff
using STL and it worked well for me.  I didn't see the original post, but I
can't quite see what the beef is.  I haven't found any good info on the
web, other than phd-type stuff.

Mark Koontz (I'm new to newsgroups)
markkoontz@ibm.net

> I've been using stl for a couple years, and std::string and
> std::stringstream for a while now.  ...
>
> First of all, where's all the documentation (other than the usual
> stuff requiring a phd)?  Where are all the code samples?  What good
> books are out there?  Why can't I find anything really good on the
> net?
>
> If you know of some good docs, please let me know (via email).
> If you also question this standard, well speak up.
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Andrew Trossman wrote:
>
> I've been using stl for a couple years, and std::string and
> std::stringstream for a while now.  ...
>
> First of all, where's all the documentation (other than the usual
> stuff requiring a phd)?  Where are all the code samples?  What good
> books are out there?  Why can't I find anything really good on the
> net?

It's not a Standard yet, and it takes a long time to get books
written and published; the wise author waits until he or she has
some chance of "getting it right" and not having things change
before the book hits the shelves.

Also, since commercially available compilers have only partially
implemented the language and library, there's not much market for
such books.  It would only frustrate those who bought the books
and found that the best features of the Standard weren't usable
on their compiler, either because they aren't implemented, or are
too buggy to use.

> If you know of some good docs, please let me know (via email).
> If you also question this standard, well speak up.

When books come out, you'll hear about them.  What we don't need
is flamebait from people who can't be bothered to understand
the Draft; rather, tutorials from the people who have made the
effort are most welcome at all the usual journals and publishing
houses.

Nathan Myers
ncm@-nospam-cantrip.org  http://www.cantrip.org/
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I've been using stl for a couple years, and std::string and
std::stringstream for a while now.  I've used various features in
locale...   But, this is not intuitive or easy.  Now if the performance
was just spectacular - orders of magnitiude faster than simpler class
libraries?

First of all, where's all the documentation (other than the usual stuff
requiring a phd)?  Where are all the code samples?  What good books are
out there?  Why can't I find anything really good on the net?

Now, I'm no idiot and I've found this quite difficult to figure out.  So
are people really using std::?  Where are they?  Are they just really
quiet and really brilliant?

I'm all for standards.  I really like stl and its flavour.  In fact I've
even extended it and written an IPC framework in the same generic
flavour.  But, there's tons of std::  that I've yet to use, because I
don't have the time to figure it all out myself.

If you know of some good docs, please let me know (via email).  If you
also question this standard, well speak up.

Andrew Trossman
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