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Where can I find a recent copy of the draft C++ standard?  I haven't been
able to find it on any web sites.

Mark Carleton
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In article <3o729o$ckt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> john@flower.aud.temple.edu (John W. Schwegler) writes:

   John W. Schwegler (john@flower.aud.temple.edu) wrote:
   : Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
   : version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
   : access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to

   : (a) print out the entire document (ha ha).
   : or
   : (b) read the entire thing sequentially from beginning to end.

   : Isn't there a more convenient format this could be provided in?
   : -john

   This is bad form, but it might help someone else attempting to read the
   Postscript version on-screen. The reason xpsview and ghostview wouldn't
   provide random access is because of the header on the body.ps (and other ps)
   file. It currently looks like:
   %!PS

   (which those programs identify as an unstructured document)
   To allow random access, modify this to:

   %!PS-Adobe-2.0

   After doing this, I was able to move around in the C++ draft docs.
   Thanks to all who emailed about related things,
   john


I just wish to bring something to people's notice here:
There were some people who, upon reading John's orig. post, sent
suggestions which helped him randomly access the document.
Then there was this stupid a**hole Jim Fleming who could
only come up with an assinine comment.

Two words for you J.F

In article <3o5rmq$fe3@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, john@flower.aud.temple.edu
says...
>
>Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
>version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
>access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to
>
>(a) print out the entire document (ha ha).
>or
>(b) read the entire thing sequentially from beginning to end.
>
>Isn't there a more convenient format this could be provided in?
>-john
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

That might make it too easy to read...and would generate comments...:)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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From: jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming)
Date: 2 May 1995 20:45:51 GMT
Organization: Unir Corporation

In article <3o5rmq$fe3@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, john@flower.aud.temple.edu
says...
>
>Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
>version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
>access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to
>
>(a) print out the entire document (ha ha).
>or
>(b) read the entire thing sequentially from beginning to end.
>
>Isn't there a more convenient format this could be provided in?
>-john
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

That might make it too easy to read...and would generate comments...:)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

--
Jim Fleming            /|\      Unir Corporation       Unir Technology, Inc.
%Techno Cat I        /  | \     One Naperville Plaza   184 Shuman Blvd. #100
Penn's Landing      /   |  \    Naperville, IL 60563   Naperville, IL 60563
East End, Tortola  |____|___\   1-708-505-5801         1-800-222-UNIR(8647)
British Virgin Islands__|______ 1-708-305-3277 (FAX)   1-708-305-0600
                 \__/-------\__/       e-mail: jim.fleming@bytes.com
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John W. Schwegler (john@flower.aud.temple.edu) wrote:
: Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
: version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
: access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to

: (a) print out the entire document (ha ha).
: or
: (b) read the entire thing sequentially from beginning to end.

: Isn't there a more convenient format this could be provided in?
: -john

This is bad form, but it might help someone else attempting to read the
Postscript version on-screen. The reason xpsview and ghostview wouldn't
provide random access is because of the header on the body.ps (and other ps)
file. It currently looks like:
%!PS

(which those programs identify as an unstructured document)
To allow random access, modify this to:

%!PS-Adobe-2.0

After doing this, I was able to move around in the C++ draft docs.
Thanks to all who emailed about related things,
john
______________________________________________________________________________
"Genius may have its limitations,       | John Schwegler
   but stupidity is not thus            | Temple U. Auditory Research Dept.
   handicapped."                        | john@flower.aud.temple.edu
         - Elbert Hubbard               | (215) 707-3687 FAX 707-3650

John W. Schwegler (john@flower.aud.temple.edu) wrote:
> Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
> version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
> access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to

I just pulled body.ps into an editor and took a look - it appears to have
the customary %Page delimiters in it.


Also just noticed that the concordance.ps I got (from research.att.com
very early Monday morning) appears to be the troff source rather than
postscript.  Since it requires at least one (apparently) non-standard
macro include file it's not very useful - has this been replaced with the
postscript version?

Not only is the draft not available in a text format, the postscript
version does not appear to be numbered either. I can't just randomly
access a page nunber on it, making in pretty useless unless I want to

(a) print out the entire document (ha ha).
or
(b) read the entire thing sequentially from beginning to end.

Isn't there a more convenient format this could be provided in?
-john

--
______________________________________________________________________________
"Genius may have its limitations,       | John Schwegler
   but stupidity is not thus            | Temple U. Auditory Research Dept.
   handicapped."                        | john@flower.aud.temple.edu
         - Elbert Hubbard               | (215) 707-3687 FAX 707-3650

In article <CvBC0G.LLI@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
dtl8v@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Douglass T. Lamb) wrote:

>   Is the draft ISO standard for C++ or the ANSI standard for C++ available
> via FTP?  I know the final standards are for sale and copyright, but, like
> the Ada 9X draft ISO reference manual, v. 5, I thought maybe comparable C++
> documents were available on the net.  Anyone?
>
> Please reply via E-mail even if posting here.  Thanks.
>
> Doug Lamb - Loral Federal Systems - dlamb@lfs.loral.com
> --
> Doug lamb@Virginia.EDU             U.Va. Dept. of Electrical Engineering
> All uncited opinions herein, express or implied, reflect the position of
>           no other organization or individual than myself.

If you receive any information, please forward it to me (and the news network).

THANX !

Peter


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  Is the draft ISO standard for C++ or the ANSI standard for C++ available
via FTP?  I know the final standards are for sale and copyright, but, like
the Ada 9X draft ISO reference manual, v. 5, I thought maybe comparable C++
documents were available on the net.  Anyone?

Please reply via E-mail even if posting here.  Thanks.

Doug Lamb - Loral Federal Systems - dlamb@lfs.loral.com
--
Doug lamb@Virginia.EDU             U.Va. Dept. of Electrical Engineering
All uncited opinions herein, express or implied, reflect the position of
          no other organization or individual than myself.