cpp@netcom.com (Robin Rowe) wrote:
>If anyone wants to fabricate a hidden agenda, they can see my affiliations
>listed in my bio. My true motivation is goodwill and to try to stem the
>tide of C++ disinformation put out by certain individuals (hint, hint).
>Another strong motivation is I don't want to be inconvenienced or killed
>by what some naive programmer might try to do with C++. Bad programming is
>a danger to everyone in a computerized society.

Indeed.  So why are you promoting a M$ marketing conference?

- rmgw

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In article <cppDCD210.4Cs@netcom.com>, cpp@netcom.com says...
>
>In article <3v5p5m$oiq@news.halcyon.com>,
>Richard Wesley  <hawkfish@punchdeck.com> wrote:
>>Oh boy!  Only $400 to listen to lots of M$ marketing hype!!
>>(And WSA wonders why I never respond to their solicitations...)
>
>I am one of the speakers. I've been accused of various things in my
>career, but hyping Microsoft isn't one of them.
>
>I will be showing how to use OOD and OOP to help overcome defects in C++
>code. That's lots of object think with examples in C++. Some of the things
>I'll be showing include how to patch C++ libraries not under your control,
>how to debug trace within assertions, how to make assertions behave as
>exceptions, and how to test code in an OO way to reveal many bugs that are
>otherwise obscure. I may even talk about some of the mathematical
>underpinnings of software defects.
>
>I didn't say the "M" word once when I spoke at this conference last year.
>How likely is it I will this time?
>
>Robin
>
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It appears that you are doing this as a volunteer. (i.e. you are not
being paid)

As a volunteer you have more latitude to present your own views and
to avoid any words that you wish to avoid. If you were being paid to
talk, then you would probably have less latitude.

It might be useful to explain to everyone before the talk what motivates
you to present your views. For some reason, people seem to pay more
attention when they know the person is not on someone's payroll.

It is a shame that more people do not have the financial independence
to help promote technology and to move the industry forward. You are
fortunate to be able to publish and speak without the restrictions that
come with financial relationships.

Keep up the good work...keep spreading the word...
 ...keep multiplying instances of loaves and fishes...
 ...some of us appreciate your unbiased evangelistic efforts...

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In article <3vhidu$km0@news1.mcs.net>,
Jim Fleming <jim.fleming@bytes.com> wrote:
>It appears that you are doing this as a volunteer. (i.e. you are not
>being paid)

Dream on. I have spoken gratis at a conference only once (because I was a
board member). People find my knowledge worth paying for.

>It might be useful to explain to everyone before the talk what motivates
>you to present your views.

If anyone wants to fabricate a hidden agenda, they can see my affiliations
listed in my bio. My true motivation is goodwill and to try to stem the
tide of C++ disinformation put out by certain individuals (hint, hint).
Another strong motivation is I don't want to be inconvenienced or killed
by what some naive programmer might try to do with C++. Bad programming is
a danger to everyone in a computerized society.

Robin

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Robin Rowe       cpp@netcom.com       408-626-6646          Carmel, CA
Rowe Technology  C++ Design/Training  Email for sample C++ Newsletter!

<<thought you folks might want to know about a great conference coming
up soon in Seattle, has a lot of C++/MFC topics>>


2nd Annual WSA NW Developers Conference

Dates: August 3rd and 4th at the Westin Hotel in Seattle, WA

Introduction:

The WSA NW Developers Conference is the only major conference for software
developers in the Northwest. This is an unparalleled opportunity to learn
about current developments in Multimedia, Database tools, Quality Assurance
and MFC/C++. The conference offers 34 technical sessions and eight sessions
for the Software Entrepreneur.

In addition, visit the 30+ vendors that will be exhibiting their latest
products and services.

Key Note Lunches:

August 3rd, Roger Heinen, Senior Vice President of Microsoft's Developers
Division, will give a strategic perspective on the vision of Windows
development in the future.

August 4th, Scott Cook, President of Intuit, will share his experience
driving Intuit to the top of the personal finance software market.
Special Event:

Microsoft will be hosting a BBQ on their corporate campus Thursday evening.
Bus transportation will be provided for all registered attendees.

Seminar Tracks include:

MFC/C++ Track:

Making the most of VC++
Introduction to Developing and using OLE 2.0 controls
Intro to MFC Architecture
Office and Back Office Development with VC++
Advanced MFC Architecture
Developing Client/Server Database applications using VC++ and MFC
Development of OLE 2.0 applications using VC++ and MFC
Migrating a C application into MFC and Win 95

Database Track:

Specifying a Conceptual Model and Mapping it to a Relational Database
Visual Fox Pro to SQL Server Connectivity
The ODBC Standard
InfoModeler: Object Role Modeling with Business Facts, Examples and rules
Tuning MS SQL Server 6.0 and Windows NT 3.5
The Power of Access: Letting it do it's job
Database Design/Specification shortcuts
Building a Data Warehouse: A Case Study
Using Visual Basic Version 3.0 in Client/Server Front End Development

Quality Assurance Track:

Introduction to Microsoft Test
Effective Defect Tracking
Overcoming Defects in C++
Doing Effective Requirements
Project Estimation in the Real World
Delivering Quality with Emerging Multimedia Technology
Shipping the Right Software at the Right Time: A view of Software
Development and Testing at Microsoft
Pros and Cons of Outsource Testing


Multimedia Development Track:

The Changing Face of the Multimedia Marketplace
Content Creation Tools
Multimedia Authoring Tools Round up: Choosing the Right Tool for the Job
Software Development for Interactive TV
Developing a Multimedia Application
Authoring Tools for High End Applications
Digital Video for Developers
Content Publishing on the Internet

Entrepreneur's Track:

An Enterepreneur's Story
Fundamentals of Product Introduction: What Entrepreneurs/Developers Should
Know About Product Launches and When They Should Know It
Partnering with Microsoft
Rules of Thumb for Quality Software
Patents, Copyrights and Trademarks for Software
Channel Fundamentals: Winning the Shelf War
Online Opportunities for Solution Providers with Microsoft Network

Cost is only $295 for employees of WSA member companies, $395 for others,
or $100 for university students ($75 seminars/exhibits only).

For more information to attend the conference or to become an exhibitor,
please contact:

For registration, please call the Washington Software Association at (206)
889-8880.

Exhibitors, please contact Prestige Events at (206) 562-8841 and ask for
Catherine Matson or email her at cathym%prestige@mcimail.com.

Oh boy!  Only $400 to listen to lots of M$ marketing hype!!

(And WSA wonders why I never respond to their solicitations...)

- rmgw

http://www.punchdeck.com/hawkfish/PunchDeck.html

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     Macintosh Software Development    |    "Through the Looking Glass"
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In article <3v5p5m$oiq@news.halcyon.com>,
Richard Wesley  <hawkfish@punchdeck.com> wrote:
>Oh boy!  Only $400 to listen to lots of M$ marketing hype!!
>(And WSA wonders why I never respond to their solicitations...)

I am one of the speakers. I've been accused of various things in my
career, but hyping Microsoft isn't one of them.

I will be showing how to use OOD and OOP to help overcome defects in C++
code. That's lots of object think with examples in C++. Some of the things
I'll be showing include how to patch C++ libraries not under your control,
how to debug trace within assertions, how to make assertions behave as
exceptions, and how to test code in an OO way to reveal many bugs that are
otherwise obscure. I may even talk about some of the mathematical
underpinnings of software defects.

I didn't say the "M" word once when I spoke at this conference last year.
How likely is it I will this time?

Robin

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Robin Rowe       cpp@netcom.com       408-626-6646          Carmel, CA
Rowe Technology  C++ Design/Training  Email for sample C++ Newsletter!