Topic: Online version of Standard


Author: jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming)
Date: 1995/07/24
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In article <3uq57c$cr4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ffarance@aol.com says...
>
>There isn't an on-line version of the C Standard or the current
>draft for C9X.  I don't think there are any plans for this, due
>to copyright issues (ANSI and ISO).  I know you're thinking ``C++
>has their working draft available, why doesn't C make it
>available?''.  The official word is that we don't have permission
>to do this.  I'm not sure what the circumstances are for C++ --
>you'd have to ask the WG21 convenor or project editor.
>
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Do you think that C++ is really that different...???

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>There are many of us (including myself) that feel that standards
>should be freely available.  We keep trying -- this issue has
>come up many times over the years.  The real problem isn't a technical
>issue (e.g., what form and format to make it available), but a money
>issue for ANSI and ISO.  Both organizations are overly dependent
>upon the sale of publications to support their organizations.  Their
>publications come from volunteers who spend much money to participate,
>yet receive no benefit from the sales of the publications (hey, we
>don't even get a free copy of the Standard!).  ANSI and ISO are
>operating in a 1970's business mentality.
>
>If you want to make a difference, come up with a business plan that
>coordinates all the standards activity yet makes no (or little)
>money from publication sales.  After you try working this problem
>on the back of an envelope a couple times, you'll see some of the
>constraints.  Many technical standards committees would like to
>make their documents available because it would facilitate their
>use.  Unfortunately, ANSI and ISO won't let us (WG14) do this.
>
>-FF
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>(``I only use AOL for reading netnews.'')
>Frank Farance, Farance Inc.
>E-mail: frank@farance.com, Telephone: +1 212 486 4700
>ISO JTC1/SC22/WG14 & ANSI X3J11 (C Programming Language) Project Editor
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Do you prefer a situation like C++ where individuals and companies are
making money from publishing the standards and source code...????

Doesn't that take money from the ANSI and ISO pockets...????

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