In the past I have asked why the ANSI committee working on the C++
standard has not used more of the Internet capabilities than just
e-mail and limited information posted to this Usenet group.

I have received varying responses, that run the gamut from ANSI
members prefer to do everything with paper to concerns about head
hunters hiring these C++ experts away from their companies, so
therefore any exposure is risky.

Just in case any of you or members of the ANSI committee want to
check out a place which could be used for town meetings, working
group sessions, etc., the following information is being passed
on to anyone that is interested. While I can not say that this
facility competes with beautiful Monterey, California, I can
attest to the fact that people do use it effectively to meet,
to discuss a variety of topics, to resolve debates, etc. and no
travel costs are incurred and very little bandwidth is used on
the Internet.

Enjoy any and all aspects of the facility....JF

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In article <3mk6r9$23l@News1.mcs.com>, jim.fleming@bytes.com says...
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>In order to learn to program using any object-oriented language it
>is important to be able to "think objects". For many procedural
>programmers this is difficult because they have been "trained" to
>look at the world as a series of nested function calls that perform
>operations on some variables that always seem to get in the way.
>
>In OO programming, the world gets reversed, the variables become the
>important elements and functions (or methods) are necessary pieces
>of code that are needed to manipulate the state of the variables. In
>OO, most of the design goes into the data, the methods often just
>fall out and get in the way but are a necessary evil.
>
>It is easy to tell a programmer to shift their view and focus on
>the variables, but many can not easily do this. Some programmers do
>not have the confidence that a variable-centered approach will work.
>They always want to start with a function call API, and in some cases
>they do this before even considering what variables these functions
>will manipulate.
>
>In order to get people "over the object hump" and into "object land",
>we recommend that people be immersed in an OO Hot Tub of objects.
>We are building such a Hot Tub in the New Student Center at The MUD
>Institute (TMI). We welcome everyone to visit, The MUD Institute
>(via telnet 199.3.34.13 port 5555) and give us your ideas for the
>new "OO Hot Tub". The New Student Center is just up the hill from the
>main quad. An escalator has been installed at the entrance to TMI to
>carry you to the site.
>
>For those not familiar with The MUD Institute (TMI), this facility
>provides FREE training for people interested in MUD development,
>LPC (Lars Pensjl C) programming, and other OO topics. The entire
>institute is built from objects and students and teachers in the
>institute can modify the objects (including the rooms) to test out
>new plug and play solutions. The MUD Institute is networked to most
>other MUDs around the world via the Internet. Administrators and
>teachers at the Institute have their own communication channels
>that use the Internet but allow people on distributed MUDs to
>communicate in real-time.
>
>See you in the new OO Hot Tub...
>        ...bring a towel object...
>                ...in case you get soaked... :-)
>
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>        Books & Bytes, Inc. - Naperville, IL
>        MCSNet - Chicago, IL
>        Unir Corporation - Naperville, IL
>        Unir Technology, Inc. - Naperville, IL
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