In article <3m1ql2$878@News1.mcs.com>,
   jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming) wrote:
>>As it seems you, Jim Fleming, know more about C+@ then we, the other
>>users of this newsgroup, could you please reveal:
>>
>>- who is "in charge" of the C+@ "movement"?
>>- who would gain financially if C+@ had more success than now?
>>- who is the owner of C+@?
>
>C+@ is not the topic of the comp.std.c++ newsgroup. As I understand this
>newsgroup, the purpose is to discuss the ANSI/ISO C++ standards activities.
>Please follow proper Nettequite (sp?) and confine your postings here to
>topics regarding the C++ standard.

  Here are the facts, for those who are wondering (since Mr. Fleming appears
to dodge the question every time someone asks about C+@):

  According to the Illinois Secretary of State, Corporate Division, Unir
Corp.'s "licence was revoked 11/1/94."  According to the County Clerk for
Naperville IL, Recorder's Office, Unir Corp.'s "dissolution" was effective
"12/94" (ref. document #94-237612).  In that document, the reason cited by
the clerk's office for the dissolution was:  "Failed to file annual report
or pay annual franchise fee."  On Friday, April 7, 1995, the Secretary of
State's office commented regarding Unir Corp.'s prior owner using Unir
Corp.'s name in current business:  "If he is, he's in violation of the
Business Code Act."  Of course, if he's reincorporated the same name
federally, all would be kosher... I've asked him to confirm or deny.

  According to the County Clerk for Naperville IL, Recorder's Office, Unir
Technology Inc. was chartered in 9/93 (ref. document #93-203098).  The
senior officers registered for the corporation were: Agent (James R.
Fleming); President (James R. Fleming); and Secretary (Virginia Cooney).
The address given was 2130 Nachtman, Wheaton IL 60187.  I can't find any
more than those two employees, so it doesn't appear to be a large software
tools house.


  Sources:

  The Illinois Secretary of State, Corporate Division, can be reached in
Chicago at voice (312) 793-3380.

  The County Clerk for Naperville IL, Recorder's Office, can be reached
voice at (708) 682-7000.

  Copies of Unir Corp.'s and Unir Technology Inc.'s articles of
incorporation can be ordered for $5 from a government office in
Springfield IL, which can be reached voice at (217) 782-6875.

  The Naperville IL Chamber of Commerce can be reached voice at (708)
355-4141.  They claim Unir is not registered, nor have they heard of Unir.

  The Northern Illinois Better Business Bureau provides information about
any past complaints about Illinois companies and how they were handled,
and can be reached voice at (312) 346-3313 between 10am and 2:30pm local
time.  They charge $3 or so for the information over the phone; if you
send your inquiry by mail they will send a reply the same week.




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In article <3m1evn$fgu@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>,
schuenem@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE says...
>
>
>In article <3let28$10n@News1.mcs.com>, jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming)
writes:
>[..]
>|> I suggest that you look a little deeper and look at who is in charge
>|> of the ANSI C movement and who is in charge of the C++ movement. Also,
>|> I suggest that you look at who stands to gain financially if the
languages
>|> evolve to be one...look at the "positioning" that has gone on for the
>|> last few years...the picture is very clear...just look at it...
>
>As it seems you, Jim Fleming, know more about C+@ then we, the other
>users of this newsgroup, could you please reveal:
>
>- who is "in charge" of the C+@ "movement"?
>- who would gain financially if C+@ had more success than now?
>- who is the owner of C+@?
>
>
>To make it very simple here is a list, just put a checkmark and send it
back:
>
>( ) Jim Fleming
>( ) Unir
>( ) any other single person
>( ) any other commercial enterprise
>( ) the US governement
>( ) an international committee
>( ) an informal group of individual freaks, enjoying their private hobby
>    (i.e. it's not their job)
>( ) neither of these
>
>

C+@ is not the topic of the comp.std.c++ newsgroup. As I understand this
newsgroup, the purpose is to discuss the ANSI/ISO C++ standards activities.
Please follow proper Nettequite (sp?) and confine your postings here to
topics regarding the C++ standard.

C+@ is a philosophy as well as a language. It is discussed on the OuterNet.

C+@, CONIX, and DoorStep are Trademarks of Unir Technology, Inc.

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