In article <3b3i2j$4b5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>,
Claus L{gel Rasmussen <shakti@daimi.aau.dk> wrote:
>Steve Oualline (sdo@crash.cts.com) wrote:
>>Does anyone know if there is an on-line copy of the ANSI
>>C++ draft standard avialiable?
>
>According to several sources there will be no online copy of the ANSI/ISO
>C++ standard.

Funny I have an online copy that I can read via Mosaic.  You must have
meant to say something else.  I am trying to figure out if/when I can
permit all the world to read it.  Right now, only X3J16 members can
read it.  If you become a member, I will add you to the access file
and let you read it online.

It isn't yet clear to me that I cannot let everyone read it.

Thus spake mrs@kithrup.com (Mike Stump):

>In article <3b3i2j$4b5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>,
>Claus L{gel Rasmussen <shakti@daimi.aau.dk> wrote:

[...]

>>According to several sources there will be no online copy of the ANSI/ISO
>>C++ standard.

>Funny I have an online copy that I can read via Mosaic.  You must have
>meant to say something else. I am trying to figure out if/when I can
>permit all the world to read it.  Right now, only X3J16 members can
>read it. If you become a member, I will add you to the access file
>and let you read it online.

>It isn't yet clear to me that I cannot let everyone read it.


No, I meant what I was saying, but I was apparently wrong.

Please keep us informed whether or not you are permitted to let all of us
humble programmers read the Standard. BTW, could you please explain how to
become a member of the committee.

Possibly we can agree on moderating my statement to...

 ...there will be no _public_ online copy of the ANSI/ISO C++ Standard.


I am citing...

1). "C++ Books & Online Tutorials" by Harvey_Taylor@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca
 ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/books/reviews/cppbl.txt

 [...]

 This document [the Standard] is not currently completed. The current
 schedule for the standardization process is:

     July 1994 (CDR) Committee Draft Registration. (Done)
     June 1995 (CD) Publication of a Committee Draft for public review.
     February 1996 (DIS) Draft International Standard
     November 1996 Final Publication.

 Note that the ANSI-ISO C++ Standard doc itself is not available
 online. Neither is the ANSI-ISO C Standard doc. Also note, there
 will be no rationale document for the ANSI/ISO C++ standard.

 [...]

2). comp.lang.c++ Frequently Asked Questions list
 sun.soe.clarkson.edu -> pub/C++/FAQ

 [...]

 Q5: Where can I ftp a copy of the latest ANSI-C++ draft standard?
 A: You can't.  ANSI standards and/or drafts are NOT available in
 machine readable form.

 >>>>UPDATED 9/93
 You can get a paper copy by sending a request to:
  Standards Secretariat
  CBEMA/X3
  1250 I Street NW
  Suite 200
  Washington, DC  20005

 Ask for the latest version of `Working Paper for Draft Proposed
 American National Standard for Information Systems -- Programming
 Language C++'.
 The last known phone number: 202-626-5738.  The last known price
 is $25.

 [...]


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In article <3bb6rn$4po@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> shakti@daimi.aau.dk (Claus L{gel Rasmussen) writes:
>
> This document [the Standard] is not currently completed. The current
> schedule for the standardization process is:
>
>     July 1994 (CDR) Committee Draft Registration. (Done)

 This is wrong. There exists a _proposed_ CDR. It has not yet been
voted on.

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Steve Oualline (sdo@crash.cts.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know if there is an on-line copy of the ANSI
: C++ draft standard avialiable?

My understanding is that it will be posted to an ftp site only when the
poublic comment period starts (estimated to be March of 1995).

If you find out otherwise, let me know!

- Rick Hollinbeck
rickh@westernwares.com

Steve Oualline (sdo@crash.cts.com) wrote:

>Does anyone know if there is an on-line copy of the ANSI
>C++ draft standard avialiable?

According to several sources there will be no online copy of the ANSI/ISO
C++ standard. Also, there will be no rationale document [whatever _that_ is].

But, there is an online document describing the differences between the ARM
and the ANSI/ISO standard (or at least the major ones). It is not covering
the STL, though. It's available as...

 ftp://ftp.std.com/AW/stroustrup2e/iso.ps

Note: This server isn't always accessible [my experience: almost newer].

Source:
 "C++ Books & Online Tutorials" by Harvey_Taylor@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca.

  ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/books/reviews/cppbl.txt

 Reference by -rns@mobicom.demon.co.uk (Rick Stones)

  same source.


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Knudrisgade 14 B II voice: +47 86 18 42 65
8000 Aarhus C
Denmark

Does anyone know if there is an on-line copy of the ANSI
C++ draft standard avialiable?

In article <Cyx9xr.Jyn@crash.cts.com> sdo@crash.cts.com (Steve Oualline) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is an on-line copy of the ANSI
>C++ draft standard avialiable?
>
 _Inter_net is an _International_ forum.

 The C++ committee, ANSI/ISO X3J16/WG21 is an
_International_ committee operating both separately
and together as an ANSI and ISO committee.

 If you do not wish to offend non-American contributors
to this process, please refer to the committee and its work
either as ANSI/ISO, ISO/ANSI or plain ISO.
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        JOHN (MAX) SKALLER,         INTERNET:maxtal@suphys.physics.su.oz.au
 Maxtal Pty Ltd,
        81A Glebe Point Rd, GLEBE   Mem: SA IT/9/22,SC22/WG21
        NSW 2037, AUSTRALIA     Phone: 61-2-566-2189