Topic: std::proposals
Author: Arthur Tchaikovsky <atch.cpp@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:37:34 -0800 (PST)
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Not exactly proposal for std ISO but for this website. I think it could be
nice if instead of std-discussion we could have std::discussion, and
std::proposals, under the FORUMS.
Any thoughts?
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<div>Not exactly proposal for std ISO but for this website. I think it could be nice if instead of std-discussion we could have std::discussion, and std::proposals, under the FORUMS.</div><div>Any thoughts? <br></div>
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Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 15:37:34 UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky a =E9crit :
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> nice if instead of std-discussion we could have std::discussion, and=20
> std::proposals, under the FORUMS.
> Any thoughts?=20
>
Isn't it already the case? Personally, I see
ISO C++ Standard - Discussion<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/=
#%21forum/std-discussion>
This group is for discussion and Q&A about the current ISO C++ standard.=
=20
See also std-proposals for discussion about proposed extensions to be=20
considered for a future version of the standard.=20
Re: [std-discussion] Aggregate initialization for variadic types - A=20
potential defect?=20
Beman Dawes=20
14:10 (il y a 1 heure)=20
ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org=
/forum/#%21forum/std-proposals>=20
This group is for discussion about proposed extensions to the ISO C++=20
language and standard library. See also std-discussion for discussion and=
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Q&A about the current ISO C++ standard.=20
std::proposals=20
Arthur Tchaikovsky=20
15:37 (il y a 3 minutes)=20
SG5 - Transactional Memory<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#%=
21forum/tm>=20
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Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 15:37:34 UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky a =E9crit&n=
bsp;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8e=
x;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Not exactly proposal=
for std ISO but for this website. I think it could be nice if instead of s=
td-discussion we could have std::discussion, and std::proposals, under the =
FORUMS.</div><div>Any thoughts? <br></div></blockquote><div><br>Isn't =
it already the case? Personally, I see<br><br> <table class=3D"GI2MSK2DIJ" =
cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DAJ=
"><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DFJ"><div style=3D"margin-left: 40px;"><a href=3D"ht=
tps://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#%21forum/std-discussion" class=
=3D"gwt-Anchor">ISO C++ Standard - Discussion</a></div> </div> <div class=
=3D"GI2MSK2DAK GI2MSK2DBJ" style=3D""> <span title=3D"This group is for dis=
cussion and Q&A about the current ISO C++ standard.
See also std-proposals for discussion about proposed extensions to be consi=
dered for a future version of the standard.">This group is for discussion a=
nd Q&A about the current ISO C++ standard.
See also std-proposals for discussion about proposed extensions to be consi=
dered for a future version of the standard.</span> </div></div></td><td><di=
v class=3D"GI2MSK2DAJ"><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DAK"> <span title=3D"Re: [std-d=
iscussion] Aggregate initialization for variadic types - A potential defect=
?">Re: [std-discussion] Aggregate initialization for variadic types - A pot=
ential defect?</span> </div> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DISB"> <span><span class=
=3D"GI2MSK2DPCB">Beman Dawes</span></span> </div> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DISB=
GI2MSK2DCHC"> <span>14:10 (il y a 1 heure)</span> </div></div></td></=
tr><tr><td><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DAJ"><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DFJ"> <div title=
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s.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#%21forum/std-proposals" class=3D"gwt-Ancho=
r">ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals</a> </div> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DA=
K GI2MSK2DBJ" style=3D""> <span title=3D"This group is for discussion about=
proposed extensions to the ISO C++ language and standard library.
See also std-discussion for discussion and Q&A about the current ISO C+=
+ standard.">This group is for discussion about proposed extensions to the =
ISO C++ language and standard library.
See also std-discussion for discussion and Q&A about the current ISO C+=
+ standard.</span> </div></div></td><td><div class=3D"GI2MSK2DAJ"><div clas=
s=3D"GI2MSK2DAK"> <span title=3D"std::proposals">std::proposals</span> </di=
v> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DISB"> <span><span class=3D"GI2MSK2DPCB">Arthur Tch=
aikovsky</span></span> </div> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DISB GI2MSK2DCHC"> <span=
>15:37 (il y a 3 minutes)</span> </div></div></td></tr><tr><td><div cl=
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"><span></span></div> <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/for=
um/#%21forum/tm" class=3D"gwt-Anchor">SG5 - Transactional Memory</a> </di=
v> <div class=3D"GI2MSK2DAK GI2MSK2DBJ" style=3D""> <span title=3D"SG5 - tr=
ansactional memory discussion">SG5 - transactional memory discussion</span>=
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From: Jean-Marc Bourguet [mailto:jm.bourguet@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:43 AM
To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Subject: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals
Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 15:37:34 UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky a =E9crit :
Not exactly proposal for std ISO but for this website. I think it could be =
nice if instead of std-discussion we could have std::discussion, and std::p=
roposals, under the FORUMS.
Any thoughts?
Isn't it already the case? Personally, I see
ISO C++ Standard - Discussion<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/=
#%21forum/std-discussion>
This group is for discussion and Q&A about the current ISO C++ standard. Se=
e also std-proposals for discussion about proposed extensions to be conside=
red for a future version of the standard.
Re: [std-discussion] Aggregate initialization for variadic types - A potent=
ial defect?
Beman Dawes
14:10 (il y a 1 heure)
[ ]
ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/=
forum/#%21forum/std-proposals>
This group is for discussion about proposed extensions to the ISO C++ langu=
age and standard library. See also std-discussion for discussion and Q&A ab=
out the current ISO C++ standard.
std::proposals
Arthur Tchaikovsky
15:37 (il y a 3 minutes)
[ ]
SG5 - Transactional Memory<https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#%2=
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SG5 - transactional memory discussion
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> std-proposals@isocpp.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forums as well.
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).
Christof
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Hi All, Christof
Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP. I believe that would
be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc. ;)
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:
> > Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forums as
> well.
>
> I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to
> std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess
> won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).
>
>
> Christof
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<div>Hi All, Christof<br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, I proposed what Chr=
istof deciphered from my OP. I believe that would be nice, C++ land, everyw=
here familiar construct etc. ;)</div><br>On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:=
51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: =
1ex;">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:
<br>> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under <a href=3D"http:=
//isocpp.org/forums" target=3D"_blank">isocpp.org/forums</a> as well.
<br>
<br>I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to
<br>std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess
<br>won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).
<br>
<br>
<br>Christof
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Thanks. Unfortunately,:: and other special characters (like +, as in C++) d=
on't generally mix well with mailing lists and other software.
Just over the past few months, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages, =
Twitter account, Facebook page and account, and other items - including the=
plain-vanilla oh-my-goodness-you'd-think-it'd-be-just-paper IRS tax form f=
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reject "+" characters in our electronic world. Anywhere.
Herb
From: Arthur Tchaikovsky [mailto:atch.cpp@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM
To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Cc: cmeerw@cmeerw.org
Subject: Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals
Hi All, Christof
Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP. I believe that would b=
e nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc. ;)
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forums<http:=
//isocpp.org/forums> as well.
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).
Christof
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks. Unfortunately,:: =
and other special characters (like +, as in C++) don’t ge=
nerally mix well with mailing lists and other software.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just over the past few mo=
nths, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages, Twitter account, Facebook=
page and account, and other items – including the plain-vanilla
oh-my-goodness-you’d-think-it’d-be-just-paper IRS tax form for=
the Foundation – it’s been amusing/annoying to see just how ma=
ny places reject “+” characters in our electronic world. An=
ywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Herb<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Arthur T=
chaikovsky [mailto:atch.cpp@gmail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> std-proposals@isocpp.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cmeerw@cmeerw.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All, Christof<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP.=
I believe that would be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar constr=
uct etc. ;)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb S=
utter wrote:
<br>
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under <a href=3D"http://is=
ocpp.org/forums" target=3D"_blank">
isocpp.org/forums</a> as well. <br>
<br>
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to <br>
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess <br>
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists). <br>
<br>
<br>
Christof <br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">http://cmeerw.org</a>  =
; &nb=
sp; <a href=3D"sip:cmeerw">sip:cmeerw</a> at
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">cmeerw.org</a> <br>
mailto:<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank">cmeerw</a> at <a href=3D"h=
ttp://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> &nbs=
p; xmpp:cmeerw at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Herb
Not to be picky, but you could simply put an image instead of text.
Anyway, I think it would look "stylish" and "cool".
Regards.
On Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:
>
> Thanks. Unfortunately,:: and other special characters (like +, as in=20
> C++) don=92t generally mix well with mailing lists and other software.
>
> =20
>
> Just over the past few months, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages=
,=20
> Twitter account, Facebook page and account, and other items =96 including=
the=20
> plain-vanilla oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just-paper IRS tax f=
orm=20
> for the Foundation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see just how many =
places=20
> reject =93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anywhere.
>
> =20
>
> Herb
>
> =20
>
> =20
> =20
> *From:* Arthur Tchaikovsky [mailto:atch...@gmail.com <javascript:>]=20
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM
> *To:* std-pr...@isocpp.org <javascript:>
> *Cc:* cme...@cmeerw.org <javascript:>
> *Subject:* Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Hi All, Christof
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP. I believe that would=
=20
> be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc. ;)
> =20
>
> On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:=20
> > Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forums as=
=20
> well.=20
>
> I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to=20
> std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess=20
> won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).=20
>
>
> Christof=20
>
> --=20
>
> http://cmeerw.org sip:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
> mailto:cmeerw at cmeerw.org xmpp:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
>
> --=20
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<div>Hi Herb<br></div><div><br></div><div>Not to be picky, but you could si=
mply put an image instead of text.</div><div>Anyway, I think it would look =
"stylish" and "cool".</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><br>On Thursda=
y, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:<blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left: 1ex;">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks. Unfortunately,:: =
and other special characters (like +, as in C++) don=92t generally mix well=
with mailing lists and other software.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just over the past few mo=
nths, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages, Twitter account, Facebook=
page and account, and other items =96 including the plain-vanilla
oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just-paper IRS tax form for the Fou=
ndation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see just how many places reject=
=93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anywhere.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Herb</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Arthur T=
chaikovsky [mailto:<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated=
-mailto=3D"9UXshEnqOQwJ">atch...@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=
=3D"9UXshEnqOQwJ">std-pr...@isocpp.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=
=3D"9UXshEnqOQwJ">cme...@cmeerw.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All, Christof</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP.=
I believe that would be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc.=
;)</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutte=
r wrote:
<br>
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under <a href=3D"http://is=
ocpp.org/forums" target=3D"_blank">
isocpp.org/forums</a> as well. <br>
<br>
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to <br>
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess <br>
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists). <br>
<br>
<br>
Christof <br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">http://cmeerw.org</a>  =
; &nb=
sp; <a>sip:cmeerw</a> at
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">cmeerw.org</a> <br>
mailto:<a>cmeerw</a> at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> &nbs=
p; xmpp:cmeerw at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> </p>
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I'm not sure whether that was serious. It made laugh, anyway.
Of course images don't work everywhere (in that twitter handle or=20
message...) and Google would not find any results for it. This is the web,=
=20
and you can only make the most if it if you play by "the rules" of the web.
The goal is:
- ease of interoperability
- accessible information
- central discussion
The goal is **not** primarily to make it look awesome. That would depend on=
=20
taste anyway
Cheers
On Friday, November 16, 2012 7:59:17 AM UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote:
>
> Hi Herb
>
> Not to be picky, but you could simply put an image instead of text.
> Anyway, I think it would look "stylish" and "cool".
>
> Regards.
>
> On Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Unfortunately,:: and other special characters (like +, as in=20
>> C++) don=92t generally mix well with mailing lists and other software.
>>
>> =20
>>
>> Just over the past few months, in setting up the site, forums, wiki=20
>> pages, Twitter account, Facebook page and account, and other items =96=
=20
>> including the plain-vanilla oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just-=
paper=20
>> IRS tax form for the Foundation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see =
just=20
>> how many places reject =93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anywh=
ere.
>>
>> =20
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> =20
>>
>> =20
>> =20
>> *From:* Arthur Tchaikovsky [mailto:atch...@gmail.com]=20
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM
>> *To:* std-pr...@isocpp.org
>> *Cc:* cme...@cmeerw.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> Hi All, Christof
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP. I believe that woul=
d=20
>> be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc. ;)
>> =20
>>
>> On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:=20
>> > Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forums as=
=20
>> well.=20
>>
>> I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to=20
>> std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess=20
>> won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).=20
>>
>>
>> Christof=20
>>
>> --=20
>>
>> http://cmeerw.org sip:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
>> mailto:cmeerw at cmeerw.org xmpp:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
>>
>> --=20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
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<div>I'm not sure whether that was serious. It made laugh, anyway.<br></div=
><div><br></div><div>Of course images don't work everywhere (in that twitte=
r handle or message...) and Google would not find any results for it. This =
is the web, and you can only make the most if it if you play by "the rules"=
of the web.</div><div><br></div><div>The goal is:</div><div><br></div><div=
> - ease of interoperability</div><div> - accessible information<=
/div><div> - central discussion</div><div><br></div><div>The goal is *=
*not** primarily to make it look awesome. That would depend on taste anyway=
</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>On Friday, November 16, 2012 7:59=
:17 AM UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t: 1ex;"><div>Hi Herb<br></div><div><br></div><div>Not to be picky, but you=
could simply put an image instead of text.</div><div>Anyway, I think it wo=
uld look "stylish" and "cool".</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><br>O=
n Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:<blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks. Unfortunately,:: =
and other special characters (like +, as in C++) don=92t generally mix well=
with mailing lists and other software.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just over the past few mo=
nths, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages, Twitter account, Facebook=
page and account, and other items =96 including the plain-vanilla
oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just-paper IRS tax form for the Fou=
ndation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see just how many places reject=
=93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anywhere.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Herb</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Arthur T=
chaikovsky [mailto:<a>atch...@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a>std-pr...@isocpp.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a>cme...@cmeerw.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All, Christof</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP.=
I believe that would be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc.=
;)</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutte=
r wrote:
<br>
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under <a href=3D"http://is=
ocpp.org/forums" target=3D"_blank">
isocpp.org/forums</a> as well. <br>
<br>
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to <br>
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess <br>
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists). <br>
<br>
<br>
Christof <br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">http://cmeerw.org</a>  =
; &nb=
sp; <a>sip:cmeerw</a> at
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">cmeerw.org</a> <br>
mailto:<a>cmeerw</a> at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> &nbs=
p; xmpp:cmeerw at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <br>
<br>
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> I'm not sure whether that was serious. It made laugh, anyway.
>
Congrats on sense of humor then.=20
On Friday, 16 November 2012 09:47:02 UTC, sghe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I'm not sure whether that was serious. It made laugh, anyway.
>
> Of course images don't work everywhere (in that twitter handle or=20
> message...) and Google would not find any results for it. This is the web=
,=20
> and you can only make the most if it if you play by "the rules" of the we=
b.
>
> The goal is:
>
> - ease of interoperability
> - accessible information
> - central discussion
>
> The goal is **not** primarily to make it look awesome. That would depend=
=20
> on taste anyway
>
> Cheers
>
> On Friday, November 16, 2012 7:59:17 AM UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote:
>>
>> Hi Herb
>>
>> Not to be picky, but you could simply put an image instead of text.
>> Anyway, I think it would look "stylish" and "cool".
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> On Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks. Unfortunately,:: and other special characters (like +, as in=
=20
>>> C++) don=92t generally mix well with mailing lists and other software.
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>> Just over the past few months, in setting up the site, forums, wiki=20
>>> pages, Twitter account, Facebook page and account, and other items =96=
=20
>>> including the plain-vanilla oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just=
-paper=20
>>> IRS tax form for the Foundation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see=
just=20
>>> how many places reject =93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anyw=
here.
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>> Herb
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> *From:* Arthur Tchaikovsky [mailto:atch...@gmail.com]=20
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM
>>> *To:* std-pr...@isocpp.org
>>> *Cc:* cme...@cmeerw.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Hi All, Christof
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP. I believe that=20
>>> would be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc. ;)
>>> =20
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutter wrote:=20
>>> > Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under isocpp.org/forumsas=
well.=20
>>>
>>> I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to=20
>>> std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess=20
>>> won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists).=20
>>>
>>>
>>> Christof=20
>>>
>>> --=20
>>>
>>> http://cmeerw.org sip:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
>>> mailto:cmeerw at cmeerw.org xmpp:cmeerw at cmeerw.org=
=20
>>>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bor=
der-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I'm not sure whether that was =
serious. It made laugh, anyway.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Congrat=
s on sense of humor then. </div><br>On Friday, 16 November 2012 09:47:=
02 UTC, sghe...@gmail.com wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex=
;"><div>I'm not sure whether that was serious. It made laugh, anyway.<br></=
div><div><br></div><div>Of course images don't work everywhere (in that twi=
tter handle or message...) and Google would not find any results for it. Th=
is is the web, and you can only make the most if it if you play by "the rul=
es" of the web.</div><div><br></div><div>The goal is:</div><div><br></div><=
div> - ease of interoperability</div><div> - accessible informati=
on</div><div> - central discussion</div><div><br></div><div>The goal i=
s **not** primarily to make it look awesome. That would depend on taste any=
way</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>On Friday, November 16, 2012 7=
:59:17 AM UTC+1, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div>Hi Herb<br></div><div><br></div><div>Not to be picky, but you c=
ould simply put an image instead of text.</div><div>Anyway, I think it woul=
d look "stylish" and "cool".</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><br>On =
Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:59:02 UTC, Herb Sutter wrote:<blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks. Unfortunately,:: =
and other special characters (like +, as in C++) don=92t generally mix well=
with mailing lists and other software.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just over the past few mo=
nths, in setting up the site, forums, wiki pages, Twitter account, Facebook=
page and account, and other items =96 including the plain-vanilla
oh-my-goodness-you=92d-think-it=92d-be-just-paper IRS tax form for the Fou=
ndation =96 it=92s been amusing/annoying to see just how many places reject=
=93+=94 characters in our electronic world. Anywhere.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Herb</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Arthur T=
chaikovsky [mailto:<a>atch...@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a>std-pr...@isocpp.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a>cme...@cmeerw.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [std-proposals] Re: std::proposals</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All, Christof</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I proposed what Christof deciphered from my OP.=
I believe that would be nice, C++ land, everywhere familiar construct etc.=
;)</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:51:10 UTC, Christof Meerwald wrote:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:20:23PM +0000, Herb Sutte=
r wrote:
<br>
> Yes, and that's how they're currently shown under <a href=3D"http://is=
ocpp.org/forums" target=3D"_blank">
isocpp.org/forums</a> as well. <br>
<br>
I think Arthur was proposing to rename std-discussion to <br>
std::discussion and std-proposals to std::proposals (which I guess <br>
won't be possible for technical reasons as these are mailing lists). <br>
<br>
<br>
Christof <br>
<br>
-- <br>
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<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">http://cmeerw.org</a>  =
; &nb=
sp; <a>sip:cmeerw</a> at
<a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">cmeerw.org</a> <br>
mailto:<a>cmeerw</a> at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> &nbs=
p; xmpp:cmeerw at <a href=3D"http://cmeerw.org" target=3D"_blank">
cmeerw.org</a> </p>
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