Topic: Re: [std-proposals] Re: Tersest Lambdas - N3560++ (P


Author: Faisal Vali <faisalv@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:58:36 -0600
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Scott Prager <splinterofchaos@gmail.com> wrote:
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<snip>
>
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> Unfortunately, I don't think the terse syntax ([&](auto x) x) made the cut.
> I'd appreciate it if anyone knew why.

<snip>

I believe, in the end, it came down to a matter of syntactic taste - I
unfortunately was not in the room when it was addressed in EWG
(bristol or chicago?) - but if my memory serves me well - the
second-hand report I got was that no one who was present in EWG at
that moment felt compelled to reopen the discussion regarding its
overall value - and as for me, given that generic lambdas - in their
current form - barely made it into C++14 (versus being moved entirely
into the concepts-lite-ts) - I decided to focus on getting wording
through core.

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Author: Kizza George Mbidde <kizza.mbidde@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:54:12 -0800 (PST)
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Any hope of having the terse syntax, & other section 2 features, from N3560
in a future C++ standard?

On Saturday, December 13, 2014 8:58:37 PM UTC+3, faisalv wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Scott Prager <splinte...@gmail.com
> <javascript:>> wrote:
> >
> >
> <snip>
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I don't think the terse syntax ([&](auto x) x) made the
> cut.
> > I'd appreciate it if anyone knew why.
>
> <snip>
>
> I believe, in the end, it came down to a matter of syntactic taste - I
> unfortunately was not in the room when it was addressed in EWG
> (bristol or chicago?) - but if my memory serves me well - the
> second-hand report I got was that no one who was present in EWG at
> that moment felt compelled to reopen the discussion regarding its
> overall value - and as for me, given that generic lambdas - in their
> current form - barely made it into C++14 (versus being moved entirely
> into the concepts-lite-ts) - I decided to focus on getting wording
> through core.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family: georgia,serif=
;">Any hope of having the terse syntax, &amp; other section 2 features, fro=
m N3560 in a future C++ standard?</span></font><br><br>On Saturday, Decembe=
r 13, 2014 8:58:37 PM UTC+3, faisalv wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left: 1ex;">On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Scott Prager &lt;<a href=3D"j=
avascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"9dXPVeEUhsoJ" onmous=
edown=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'ja=
vascript:';return true;">splinte...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt;
<br>&lt;snip&gt;
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Unfortunately, I don't think the terse syntax ([&amp;](auto x) x) =
made the cut.
<br>&gt; I'd appreciate it if anyone knew why.
<br>
<br>&lt;snip&gt;
<br>
<br>I believe, in the end, it came down to a matter of syntactic taste - I
<br>unfortunately was not in the room when it was addressed in EWG
<br>(bristol or chicago?) - but if my memory serves me well - the
<br>second-hand report I got was that no one who was present in EWG at
<br>that moment felt compelled to reopen the discussion regarding its
<br>overall value - and as for me, given that generic lambdas - in their
<br>current form - barely made it into C++14 (versus being moved entirely
<br>into the concepts-lite-ts) - I decided to focus on getting wording
<br>through core.
<br></blockquote></div>

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Author: Ville Voutilainen <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:55:33 +0200
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On 13 December 2014 at 23:54, Kizza George Mbidde
<kizza.mbidde@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any hope of having the terse syntax, & other section 2 features, from N3560
> in a future C++ standard?


They were shot down once. Trying again would likely require new rationale.

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Author: Kizza George Mbidde <kizza.mbidde@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:01:53 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Ville.
I am not aware of any article or document revealing why EWG declined the
proposals from N3560. Can you please provide a link to any reliable source?
I would really love to read & understand EWG's decision on N3560.
Thanks.

On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:55:34 AM UTC+3, Ville Voutilainen wrote:
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> On 13 December 2014 at 23:54, Kizza George Mbidde
> <kizza....@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
> > Any hope of having the terse syntax, & other section 2 features, from
> N3560
> > in a future C++ standard?
>
>
> They were shot down once. Trying again would likely require new rationale.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: georgia,serif;">Hi Ville.<br>I=
 am not aware of any</span> article or document revealing why EWG declined =
the proposals from N3560. Can you please provide a link to any reliable sou=
rce?<br>I would really love to read &amp; understand EWG's decision on N356=
0.<br>Thanks.<br><br>On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:55:34 AM UTC+3, Ville =
Voutilainen wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;marg=
in-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On 13 Decemb=
er 2014 at 23:54, Kizza George Mbidde
<br>&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"=
RmPbtcY8ITUJ" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;" onclic=
k=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">kizza....@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:
<br>&gt; Any hope of having the terse syntax, &amp; other section 2 feature=
s, from N3560
<br>&gt; in a future C++ standard?
<br>
<br>
<br>They were shot down once. Trying again would likely require new rationa=
le.
<br></blockquote></div>

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