Topic: How to find the status of a paper?


Author: =?UTF-8?Q?Klaim_=2D_Jo=C3=ABl_Lamotte?= <mjklaim@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:41:07 +0200
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Is there a general (public) place to go to check what's the current status
of a paper, proposal or not?

I could ask here each time I want to know a paper's status
 but I think it's something that could be automated somewhat.

I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the
status of all papers.
I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it's
tracking papers.


Joel Lamotte

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Is there a general (public) place to go to check what&#39;=
s the current status of a paper, proposal or not?<div><br></div><div>I coul=
d ask here each time I want to know a paper&#39;s status<br>=C2=A0but I thi=
nk it&#39;s something that could be automated somewhat.</div><div><br></div=
><div>I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the=
 status of all papers.</div><div>I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it =
an official tool?) but it&#39;s tracking papers.</div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div>Joel Lamotte</div><div><br></div></div>

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Author: Ville Voutilainen <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:56:59 +0300
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On 25 June 2015 at 12:41, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte <mjklaim@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> Is there a general (public) place to go to check what's the current statu=
s
> of a paper, proposal or not?
>
> I could ask here each time I want to know a paper's status
>  but I think it's something that could be automated somewhat.
>
> I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the sta=
tus
> of all papers.
> I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it's
> tracking papers.


There are multiple ways. http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-active.html giv=
es
you the currently-unfinished Evolution business.
http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-complete.html
gives you the finished Evolution business.

The mailing pages like the one at
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/#mailing2015-05
give you the status of new papers (Adopted/Revised).

Editor's reports like
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/n4528.html
tell you what papers, if any, have been adopted into the working draft.

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Author: =?UTF-8?Q?Klaim_=2D_Jo=C3=ABl_Lamotte?= <mjklaim@gmail.com>
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Thanks Ville.

On 25 June 2015 at 11:56, Ville Voutilainen <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 25 June 2015 at 12:41, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte <mjklaim@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> > Is there a general (public) place to go to check what's the current
> status
> > of a paper, proposal or not?
> >
> > I could ask here each time I want to know a paper's status
> >  but I think it's something that could be automated somewhat.
> >
> > I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the
> status
> > of all papers.
> > I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it's
> > tracking papers.
>
>
> There are multiple ways. http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-active.html
> gives
> you the currently-unfinished Evolution business.
> http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-complete.html
> gives you the finished Evolution business.
>
>
Bookmarked.


> The mailing pages like the one at
> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/#mailing2015-05
> give you the status of new papers (Adopted/Revised).
>
>
I look first there but the meaning of the 'blank' state is not clear. I
don't know if the papers
have even been discussed officially, even when the last meeting is far
after the publication.


> Editor's reports like
> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/n4528.html
> tell you what papers, if any, have been adopted into the working draft.
>
>
Thanks again, bookmarked.

I'll think of a way to gather and easily update this data.


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Thanks Ville.</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 25 June 2015 at 11:56,=
 Ville Voutilainen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ville.voutilaine=
n@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ville.voutilainen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D=
"h5">On 25 June 2015 at 12:41, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:mjklaim@gmail.com">mjklaim@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Is there a general (public) place to go to check what&#39;s the curren=
t status<br>
&gt; of a paper, proposal or not?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I could ask here each time I want to know a paper&#39;s status<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 but I think it&#39;s something that could be automated somewhat.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the =
status<br>
&gt; of all papers.<br>
&gt; I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it&#3=
9;s<br>
&gt; tracking papers.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div>There are multiple ways. <a href=3D"http://cplusplus.github.io/=
EWG/ewg-active.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://cplusplus.=
github.io/EWG/ewg-active.html</a> gives<br>
you the currently-unfinished Evolution business.<br>
<a href=3D"http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-complete.html" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-complete.html</a>=
<br>
gives you the finished Evolution business.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Bookmarked.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The mailing pages like the one at<br>
<a href=3D"http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/#mailing2015=
-05" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG2=
1/docs/papers/2015/#mailing2015-05</a><br>
give you the status of new papers (Adopted/Revised).<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I look first there but the meaning of =
the &#39;blank&#39; state is not clear. I don&#39;t know if the papers</div=
><div>have even been discussed officially, even when the last meeting is fa=
r after the publication.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">
Editor&#39;s reports like<br>
<a href=3D"http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/n4528.html" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/doc=
s/papers/2015/n4528.html</a><br>
tell you what papers, if any, have been adopted into the working draft.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div>Thanks again, bookmarked.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
&#39;ll think of a way to gather and easily update this data.</div><div>=C2=
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=
=3D"#888888">
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Author: Vadim Petrochenkov <vadim.petrochenkov@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
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I found reports from Botond Ballo more informative on this subject than any=
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official sources.
https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/trip-report-c-standards-commit=
tee-meeting-in-issaquah-february-2014/
https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/trip-report-c-standards-commit=
tee-meeting-in-rapperswil-june-2014/
https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/trip-report-c-standards-meetin=
g-in-urbana-champaign-november-2014/
https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/trip-report-c-standards-meetin=
g-in-lenexa-may-2015/

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 12:41:09 PM UTC+3, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte =
wrote:
>
> Is there a general (public) place to go to check what's the current statu=
s=20
> of a paper, proposal or not?
>
> I could ask here each time I want to know a paper's status
>  but I think it's something that could be automated somewhat.
>
> I looked at the next standard github git log but it does not tell the=20
> status of all papers.
> I looked at the bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it's=20
> tracking papers.
>
>
> Joel Lamotte
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I found reports from Botond Ballo more informative on this=
 subject than any official sources.<div>https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2=
014/02/22/trip-report-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-issaquah-february-20=
14/</div><div>https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/trip-report-c-st=
andards-committee-meeting-in-rapperswil-june-2014/</div><div>https://botond=
ballo.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-urbana-ch=
ampaign-november-2014/</div><div>https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2015/06/=
05/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-lenexa-may-2015/<br><br>On Thursday, =
June 25, 2015 at 12:41:09 PM UTC+3, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Is there a general (=
public) place to go to check what's the current status of a paper, proposal=
 or not?<div><br></div><div>I could ask here each time I want to know a pap=
er's status<br>&nbsp;but I think it's something that could be automated som=
ewhat.</div><div><br></div><div>I looked at the next standard github git lo=
g but it does not tell the status of all papers.</div><div>I looked at the =
bugzilla at isocpp (is it an official tool?) but it's tracking papers.</div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Joel Lamotte</div><div><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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Author: Ville Voutilainen <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:12:21 +0300
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On 25 June 2015 at 13:38, Klaim - Jo=C3=ABl Lamotte <mjklaim@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>> The mailing pages like the one at
>> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/#mailing2015-05
>> give you the status of new papers (Adopted/Revised).
>>
> I look first there but the meaning of the 'blank' state is not clear. I
> don't know if the papers
> have even been discussed officially, even when the last meeting is far af=
ter
> the publication.

Well, chances are that if there's no revision and no adoption, the paper ha=
s
somehow fallen on the floor. That's one of the reasons why we have more spe=
cific
tracking mechanisms, like the issue lists and the LEWG bugzilla.

>> Editor's reports like
>> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/n4528.html
>> tell you what papers, if any, have been adopted into the working draft.
> Thanks again, bookmarked.

Note that you don't want to bookmark that specific document, there's going =
to
be a new one after a new draft is released.

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On 25 June 2015 at 13:05, Vadim Petrochenkov <vadim.petrochenkov@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I found reports from Botond Ballo more informative on this subject than
> any official sources.
>
> https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/trip-report-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-issaquah-february-2014/
>
> https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/trip-report-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-rapperswil-june-2014/
>
> https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-urbana-champaign-november-2014/
>
> https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-lenexa-may-2015/
>
>

I do read trip reports but it's not exactly what I'm asking here because a
lot of paper
could have been quickly discussed and the person reporting don't know or
don't report it.
Basically, an official source is better.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On 25 June 2015 at 13:05, Vadim Petrochenkov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:vadim.petrochenkov@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">vadim.petroch=
enkov@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">I found reports from Botond Ballo more informative on this su=
bject than any official sources.<div><a href=3D"https://botondballo.wordpre=
ss.com/2014/02/22/trip-report-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-issaquah-feb=
ruary-2014/" target=3D"_blank">https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/02/22=
/trip-report-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-issaquah-february-2014/</a></=
div><div><a href=3D"https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/trip-repor=
t-c-standards-committee-meeting-in-rapperswil-june-2014/" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/trip-report-c-standards-commi=
ttee-meeting-in-rapperswil-june-2014/</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://boto=
ndballo.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-urbana-=
champaign-november-2014/" target=3D"_blank">https://botondballo.wordpress.c=
om/2014/11/23/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-urbana-champaign-november-=
2014/</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2015/06/05=
/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-lenexa-may-2015/" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://botondballo.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-i=
n-lenexa-may-2015/</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div></div></div></=
blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I do read trip reports but it=
&#39;s not exactly what I&#39;m asking here because a lot of paper</div><di=
v>could have been quickly discussed and the person reporting don&#39;t know=
 or don&#39;t report it.</div><div>Basically, an official source is better.=
</div></div></div></div>

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