Topic: Better Standard/TS Status Notifications
Author: Bryce Glover <randomdsdevel@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:08:43 -0400
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> On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:44 AM, std-proposals@isocpp.org wrote:
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> Better Standard/TS Status Notification =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 <http://groups=
..google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/t/bdf97e590fce4c5e?utm_source=
=3Ddigest&utm_medium=3Demail>
> Bryce Glover <randomdsdevel@gmail.com>: Aug 17 07:03PM -0400=20
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> To Whom It May Concern:=20
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> I really liked the =E2=80=99Thoughts about C++17=E2=80=99 document <https=
://isocpp.org/files/papers/D4492.pdf <https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D4492=
..pdf>> that Bjarne put together ahead of the Lenexa ISO WG21 meeting. It wa=
s a very good summary of what was then the current status of the C++17 work=
ing draft and the various technical specifications. I was wondering if anyb=
ody plans to put something similar together in time for the Kona meeting. B=
arring that, perhaps the ISO C++ web site=E2=80=99s =E2=80=99Current Status=
=E2=80=99 page <https://isocpp.org/std/status <https://isocpp.org/std/statu=
s>> could be augmented with something similar (perhaps under the =E2=80=98P=
rogression Notes=E2=80=99 Excel worksheet or in the page=E2=80=99s =E2=80=
=98Project Details=E2=80=99 sub-section?) Having a central place to go to l=
ook for notes on what=E2=80=99s going to be in upcoming TSes and revisions =
of the standard would be very nice; C++17=E2=80=99s Wikipedia article isn=
=E2=80=99t necessarily up to date at all times, and blog posts about progre=
ss in these directions can become infrequent.=20
> =20
> Curious,=20
> Bryce Glover
> RandomDSdevel@gmail.com
> Nicol Bolas <jmckesson@gmail.com>: Aug 18 07:01AM -0700=20
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> While I loved Bjarne's paper, I don't think that it was an adequate summa=
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> of the committee's work at that time. It was a great declaration of what=
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> C++17 *ought* to be, but it didn't really cover the specific work that wa=
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> being done.
> =20
> For that, I prefer the various post-meeting blog reports. Herb Sutter,=20
> barring death, injury, or disinterest in C++, will probably keep posting =
a=20
> solid summary of the committee's work. And there is usually at least one=
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> other solid summation as well, usually two.
> =20
> While I would love the C++ status page being more up-to-date about the=20
> various TSs (or at least somewhere that we can go to find out the status =
of=20
> a paper), I don=E2=80=99t think that's likely to happen. =20
OK, but I still wish that I didn=E2=80=99t have to go scrambling all over t=
he Internet looking for blog posts on the subject (though the links from th=
e ISO C++ web page=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98Blog=E2=80=99 tab do make doing that =
a lot easier, mind you.) =20
Bryce Glover
RandomDSdevel@gmail.com
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Bryce Glover <<a href=3D"mailto:randomdsdevel@gmail.com" class=
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To Whom It May Concern: <br class=3D"">
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I really liked the =E2=80=99Thoughts about C++17=E2=80=99 document <=
;<a href=3D"https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D4492.pdf" class=3D"">https://i=
socpp.org/files/papers/D4492.pdf</a>> that Bjarne put together ahead of =
the Lenexa ISO WG21 meeting. It was a very good summary of what was then t=
he current status of the C++17 working draft and the various technical spec=
ifications. I was wondering if anybody plans to put something similar toge=
ther in time for the Kona meeting. Barring that, perhaps the ISO C++ web s=
ite=E2=80=99s =E2=80=99Current Status=E2=80=99 page <<a href=3D"https://=
isocpp.org/std/status" class=3D"">https://isocpp.org/std/status</a>> cou=
ld be augmented with something similar (perhaps under the =E2=80=98Progress=
ion Notes=E2=80=99 Excel worksheet or in the page=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98Projec=
t Details=E2=80=99 sub-section?) Having a central place to go to look for =
notes on what=E2=80=99s going to be in upcoming TSes and revisions of the s=
tandard would be very nice; C++17=E2=80=99s Wikipedia article isn=E2=80=99t=
necessarily up to date at all times, and blog posts
about progress in these directions can become infrequent. <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Curious, <br class=3D"">
Bryce Glover<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"mailto:RandomDSdevel@gmail.com" class=3D"">RandomDSdevel@gm=
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Nicol Bolas <<a href=3D"mailto:jmckesson@gmail.com" class=3D""=
>jmckesson@gmail.com</a>>: Aug 18 07:01AM -0700
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While I loved Bjarne's paper, I don't think that it was an adequate=
summary <br class=3D"">
of the committee's work at that time. It was a great declaration of what <b=
r class=3D"">
C++17 *ought* to be, but it didn't really cover the specific work that was =
<br class=3D"">
being done.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
For that, I prefer the various post-meeting blog reports. Herb Sutter, <br =
class=3D"">
barring death, injury, or disinterest in C++, will probably keep posting a =
<br class=3D"">
solid summary of the committee's work. And there is usually at least one <b=
r class=3D"">
other solid summation as well, usually two.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
While I would love the C++ status page being more up-to-date about the <br =
class=3D"">
various TSs (or at least somewhere that we can go to find out the status of=
<br class=3D"">
a paper), I don=E2=80=99t think that's likely to happen. </td></tr></=
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px;" class=3D"">
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</div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">OK, but I still wis=
h that I didn=E2=80=99t have to go scrambling all over the Internet looking=
for blog posts on the subject (though the links from the ISO C++ web page=
=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98Blog=E2=80=99 tab do make doing that a <i class=3D"">lo=
t</i> easier, mind you.) </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></=
div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Bryce Glover</div><div class=3D""><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:RandomDSdevel@gmail.com" class=3D"">RandomDSdevel@gmail.com</a=
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