Topic: DO-178b safety-critical C++
Author: Robin Rowe <robinsrowe@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:45:17 -0800
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Can anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for
safety-critical systems?
What C++ features are considered unsafe for DO-178b? For example, with
flight software, any program termination will result in destruction of
the spacecraft. Since an uncaught exception would be catastrophic, is
banning using exceptions here the best course?
Robin
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Author: daniele.bordes@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:28:28 -0800 (PST)
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Some standards were developed with C++ guidelines and feature limitations.
The most important are:
- MISRA C++=20
- JSF Air Vehicle C++ Coding Standard
Tipically features like dynamic memory allocation are forbidden, automatic=
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conversions are restricted and so on.
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> Can anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for=20
> safety-critical systems?=20
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> What C++ features are considered unsafe for DO-178b? For example, with=20
> flight software, any program termination will result in destruction of=20
> the spacecraft. Since an uncaught exception would be catastrophic, is=20
> banning using exceptions here the best course?=20
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> Robin=20
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Some standards were developed with C++ guidelines and feat=
ure limitations.<br>The most important are:<br><br>- MISRA C++ <br>- JSF Ai=
r Vehicle C++ Coding Standard<br><br>Tipically features like dynamic memory=
allocation are forbidden, automatic conversions are restricted and so on.<=
br><h3 class=3D"r"></h3><br>Il giorno venerd=C3=AC 26 febbraio 2016 07:45:2=
2 UTC+1, Robin Rowe ha scritto:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"=
>Can anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for=20
<br>safety-critical systems?
<br>
<br>What C++ features are considered unsafe for DO-178b? For example, with=
=20
<br>flight software, any program termination will result in destruction of=
=20
<br>the spacecraft. Since an uncaught exception would be catastrophic, is=
=20
<br>banning using exceptions here the best course?
<br>
<br>Robin
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Author: daniele.bordes@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:31:52 -0800 (PST)
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The JSF C++ Coding Standard forbids also Exceptions.
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> Can anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for=20
> safety-critical systems?=20
>
> What C++ features are considered unsafe for DO-178b? For example, with=20
> flight software, any program termination will result in destruction of=20
> the spacecraft. Since an uncaught exception would be catastrophic, is=20
> banning using exceptions here the best course?=20
>
> Robin=20
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><h3 class=3D"r">The JSF C++ Coding Standard forbids also E=
xceptions.<br></h3><br>Il giorno venerd=C3=AC 26 febbraio 2016 07:45:22 UTC=
+1, Robin Rowe ha scritto:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Can =
anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for=20
<br>safety-critical systems?
<br>
<br>What C++ features are considered unsafe for DO-178b? For example, with=
=20
<br>flight software, any program termination will result in destruction of=
=20
<br>the spacecraft. Since an uncaught exception would be catastrophic, is=
=20
<br>banning using exceptions here the best course?
<br>
<br>Robin
<br>
<br></blockquote></div>
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Author: Arash Partow <partow@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:20:33 +1100
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DO-178B levels C/D are pretty much standard coding nothing special.
Levels A and B have much more stricter requirements - to the point
where I don't think you can use C++ in Level A.
Unless there's a toolchain provider out there that has a Level A
certified c++ toolchain, standard library et al, don't even think
Green Hills has one, so there's really no point...
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Author: Robert Ramey <ramey@rrsd.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:21:22 -0800
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On 2/25/16 10:45 PM, Robin Rowe wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what work has been done to standardize C++ for
> safety-critical systems?
>
Note that next Tuesday, the C++ standards committee SG-6 will consider
the proposal safe integers which is specifically designed for these
types of applications. Feel free to read the proposal and comment on
this list.
https://isocpp.org/blog/2016/02/2016-02-pre-jacksonville-mailing-available
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2016/p0228r0.pdf
Robert Ramey
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