Topic: What heppened to N3949?
Author: joewoodbury@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic RAII
Wrapper for the Standard Library)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource=
- Generic RAII Wrapper for the Standard Library)<br></div>
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It is currently P0052. I don't believe that this is the latest document
but P0052 is the paper number to watch:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf.
As for what happened, it is still working it's way through the process
driven largely by the great efforts of Peter Sommerlad and others who have
been very helpful in refining the document, etc.
-Andrew Sandoval
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <joewoodbury@gmail.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic RAII
> Wrapper for the Standard Library)
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It is currently P0052.=C2=A0 I don't believe that=
this is the latest document but P0052 is the paper number to watch: <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf">h=
ttp://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf</a>.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>As for what happened, it is still working it's wa=
y through the process driven largely by the great efforts of Peter Sommerla=
d and others who have been very helpful in refining the document, etc.</div=
><div><br></div><div>-Andrew Sandoval</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:joewoodbury@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">joe=
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e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource=
- Generic RAII Wrapper for the Standard Library)<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fo=
nt color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font c=
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Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource and
scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the
wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion
function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?
Chris
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Sandoval <
sandoval@netwaysglobal.com> wrote:
> It is currently P0052. I don't believe that this is the latest document
> but P0052 is the paper number to watch:
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf.
>
> As for what happened, it is still working it's way through the process
> driven largely by the great efforts of Peter Sommerlad and others who have
> been very helpful in refining the document, etc.
>
> -Andrew Sandoval
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <joewoodbury@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic RAII
>> Wrapper for the Standard Library)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Is it correct to read that the only difference between uni=
que_resource and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated=
with the wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a delet=
ion function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?<div><br></div><div>C=
hris</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Sandoval <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:sandoval@netwaysglobal.com" target=3D"_blank">sandoval@netway=
sglobal.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div>It is currently P0052.=C2=A0 I don't believe that this i=
s the latest document but P0052 is the paper number to watch: <a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0=
..pdf</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>As for what happened, it is still workin=
g it's way through the process driven largely by the great efforts of P=
eter Sommerlad and others who have been very helpful in refining the docume=
nt, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>-Andrew Sandoval</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:joewoodb=
ury@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">joewoodbury@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote=
:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Out of curiosity, what=
happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic RAII Wrapper for the Standar=
d Library)<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font=
color=3D"#888888">
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Why scope_exit and not just a finally clause? (Besides that Bjorn doesn't
like finally.)
On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 12:49:03 PM UTC-7, Christopher Horvath wrote:
>
> Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource and
> scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the
> wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion
> function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Sandoval <
> sand...@netwaysglobal.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> It is currently P0052. I don't believe that this is the latest document
>> but P0052 is the paper number to watch:
>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf.
>>
>> As for what happened, it is still working it's way through the process
>> driven largely by the great efforts of Peter Sommerlad and others who have
>> been very helpful in refining the document, etc.
>>
>> -Andrew Sandoval
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <joewo...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic
>>> RAII Wrapper for the Standard Library)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Why scope_exit and not just a finally clause? (Besides tha=
t Bjorn doesn't like finally.)<br><br>On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 12:49:=
03 PM UTC-7, Christopher Horvath wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Is it correct to read that the only difference be=
tween unique_resource and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object a=
ssociated with the wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and ha=
s a deletion function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?<div><br></d=
iv><div>Chris</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16=
, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Sandoval <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"javasc=
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Latest proposal of RAII wrapper is P0052R2
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and discussion is=20
https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-proposals/p0052=
r2/std-proposals/b74TFYOWRB8/lafn82XbAwAJ
The most serious issue of this proposal I think is "There is no way to=20
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>Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource and=
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wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion=20
function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?
That's right, I think, however, p0052r2's scope_exit class has=20
"uncaught_on_creation()" member function and I don't know what it is.
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> Why scope_exit and not just a finally clause? (Besides that Bjorn doesn't=
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> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 12:49:03 PM UTC-7, Christopher Horvath wrote:
>>
>> Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource=
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>> and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the=
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>> function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?
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>> Chris
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Sandoval <
>> sand...@netwaysglobal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is currently P0052. I don't believe that this is the latest documen=
t=20
>>> but P0052 is the paper number to watch:=20
>>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0052r0.pdf.
>>>
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>>> driven largely by the great efforts of Peter Sommerlad and others who h=
ave=20
>>> been very helpful in refining the document, etc.
>>>
>>> -Andrew Sandoval
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <joewo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Out of curiosity, what happened to N3949? (Scoped Resource - Generic=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Latest proposal of RAII wrapper is P0052R2<br>http://www.o=
pen-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0052r2.pdf<br>and discussion i=
s <br>https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-proposals=
/p0052r2/std-proposals/b74TFYOWRB8/lafn82XbAwAJ<br><br>The most serious iss=
ue of this proposal I think is "There is no way to detect failure when=
executed deletion function at destractor".<br><br>>Is it correct t=
o read that the only difference between unique_resource=20
and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the=20
wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion=20
function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?<br><br>That's right,=
I think, however, p0052r2's scope_exit class has "uncaught_on_cre=
ation()" member function and I don't know what it is.<br><br><br>2=
016=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=8817=E6=97=A5=E7=81=AB=E6=9B=9C=E6=97=A5 6=E6=99=8224=
=E5=88=8659=E7=A7=92 UTC+9 joewo...@gmail.com:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why scope_exit and not just a finally clau=
se? (Besides that Bjorn doesn't like finally.)<br><br>On Monday, May 16=
, 2016 at 12:49:03 PM UTC-7, Christopher Horvath wrote:<blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Is it correct to read that the only di=
fference between unique_resource and scope_exit is whether or not there is =
an object associated with the wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the ob=
ject and has a deletion function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?<=
div><br></div><div>Chris</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
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=3D"nofollow">sand...@netwaysglobal.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
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id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It is currently P0052.=C2=A0 I d=
on't believe that this is the latest document but P0052 is the paper nu=
mber to watch: <a href=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/paper=
s/2015/p0052r0.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" onmousedown=3D"this.=
href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2F=
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x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHCBSsgu-tmOsb2CbmcBYE3OXAM_A';return true;" onclic=
k=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-=
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D\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHCBSsgu-tmOsb2CbmcBYE3OXAM_A';return tru=
e;">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/<wbr>sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/<wbr>p0052=
r0.pdf</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>As for what happened, it is still work=
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div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, <span =
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On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 11:28:17 PM UTC-4, =E6=88=B8=E8=88=98=E5=A4=A2=
=E5=BD=A6 wrote:
>
> Latest proposal of RAII wrapper is P0052R2
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0052r2.pdf
> and discussion is=20
>
> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-proposals/p00=
52r2/std-proposals/b74TFYOWRB8/lafn82XbAwAJ
>
> The most serious issue of this proposal I think is "There is no way to=20
> detect failure when executed deletion function at destractor".
>
.... huh?
=20
>
> >Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource=
=20
> and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the=
=20
> wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion=20
> function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?=20
>
> That's right, I think, however, p0052r2's scope_exit class has=20
> "uncaught_on_creation()" member function and I don't know what it is.
>
That's not a member function; it's merely a member variable. And it's=20
private. And it's exposition-only.
The purpose of it is for the class's destructor to be able to tell whether=
=20
the object was created during stack unwinding or before stack unwinding. If=
=20
it was created before unwinding, then the destructor is being called=20
because the stack is being unwound, and therefore represents a=20
scope-failure. Otherwise, the destructor is being called because the stack=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 11:28:17 PM UTC-4, =E6=88=B8=E8=
=88=98=E5=A4=A2=E5=BD=A6 wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"=
><div>Latest proposal of RAII wrapper is P0052R2<br><a href=3D"http://www.o=
pen-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0052r2.pdf" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?=
q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers%2F2=
016%2Fp0052r2.pdf\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEqKeTxHXu_HX1c1mD=
ejKhoKONJvA';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.googl=
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sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr>p0052r2.pdf</a><br>and discussion is <br><a=
href=3D"https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-propos=
als/p0052r2/std-proposals/b74TFYOWRB8/lafn82XbAwAJ" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'https://groups.google.com/a/i=
socpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-proposals/p0052r2/std-proposals/b74TFYOWRB8/=
lafn82XbAwAJ';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'https://groups.=
google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/std-proposals/p0052r2/std-proposal=
s/b74TFYOWRB8/lafn82XbAwAJ';return true;">https://groups.google.com/a/<=
wbr>isocpp.org/forum/#!searchin/<wbr>std-proposals/p0052r2/std-<wbr>proposa=
ls/b74TFYOWRB8/<wbr>lafn82XbAwAJ</a><br><br>The most serious issue of this =
proposal I think is "There is no way to detect failure when executed d=
eletion function at destractor".<br></div></blockquote><div><br>... hu=
h?<br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;marg=
in-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br>>=
;Is it correct to read that the only difference between unique_resource=20
and scope_exit is whether or not there is an object associated with the=20
wrapper? Meaning, unique_resource owns the object and has a deletion=20
function, scope_exit just has a deletion function?=C2=A0</div></blockquote>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bor=
der-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>That'=
s right, I think, however, p0052r2's scope_exit class has "uncaugh=
t_on_creation()" member function and I don't know what it is.<br><=
/div></blockquote><div><br>That's not a member function; it's merel=
y a member variable. And it's private. And it's exposition-only.<br=
><br>The purpose of it is for the class's destructor to be able to tell=
whether the object was created during stack unwinding or before stack unwi=
nding. If it was created before unwinding, then the destructor is being cal=
led because the stack is being unwound, and therefore represents a scope-fa=
ilure. Otherwise, the destructor is being called because the stack is exiti=
ng normally.</div><br></div>
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> That's not a member function; it's merely a member variable. And it's
> private. And it's exposition-only.
>
>
Oh...I missed it. Thank you.
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iv dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div><br>That's not a member function; it'=
;s merely a member variable. And it's private. And it's exposition-=
only.<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Oh...I missed it. Thank you.=
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