Topic: How do I make one of those proposal documents?
Author: Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:49:16 -0800 (PST)
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I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at least
this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process involved.
I've written a document containing what I'd like to say, but it's not
formatted at all (it's literally a .txt file). So I have a series of
questions about it:
1. What format should such documents be written in? I don't know HTML,
Latex, or PostScript, but could learn if I had to. Something tells me that
Microsoft Word documents are *not* the preferred format.
2. What sort of consensus does this need to get prior to filing as a formal
proposal?
3. Does this sort of thing need to go through CWG?
4. Do I need to get opinions from prominent people first?
Thanks,
Melissa
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposa=
l, since at least this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't kno=
w the process involved.=C2=A0 I've written a document containing what I=
'd like to say, but it's not formatted at all (it's literally a=
.txt file).=C2=A0 So I have a series of questions about it:<br><br>1. What=
format should such documents be written in?=C2=A0 I don't know HTML, L=
atex, or PostScript, but could learn if I had to.=C2=A0 Something tells me =
that Microsoft Word documents are <i>not</i> the preferred format.<br><br>2=
.. What sort of consensus does this need to get prior to filing as a formal =
proposal?<br><br>3. Does this sort of thing need to go through CWG?<br><br>=
4. Do I need to get opinions from prominent people first?<br><br>Thanks,<br=
><br>Melissa<br></div>
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Have you tried https://isocpp.org/std/submit-a-proposal as a starting point?
Text file are not necessarily bad if they have sufficient content.
If you send a proposal, though, you should envision either coming to a
meeting to present it, or having someone who goes to a meeting champion it
for you. We normally can't find the time to process every paper, so being
there to explain it really helps.
Good luck!
2017-03-02 14:49 GMT-05:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at
> least this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process
> involved. I've written a document containing what I'd like to say, but
> it's not formatted at all (it's literally a .txt file). So I have a series
> of questions about it:
>
> 1. What format should such documents be written in? I don't know HTML,
> Latex, or PostScript, but could learn if I had to. Something tells me that
> Microsoft Word documents are *not* the preferred format.
>
> 2. What sort of consensus does this need to get prior to filing as a
> formal proposal?
>
> 3. Does this sort of thing need to go through CWG?
>
> 4. Do I need to get opinions from prominent people first?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Melissa
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Have you tried <a href=3D"https://isocpp.or=
g/std/submit-a-proposal">https://isocpp.org/std/submit-a-proposal</a> as a =
starting point?<br><br></div>Text file are not necessarily bad if they have=
sufficient content.<br><br></div>If you send a proposal, though, you shoul=
d envision either coming to a meeting to present it, or having someone who =
goes to a meeting champion it for you. We normally can't find the time =
to process every paper, so being there to explain it really helps.<br><br><=
/div>Good luck!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">2017-03-02 14:49 GMT-05:00 Myriachan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:myriachan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">myriachan@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I wanted to w=
rite up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at least this mailing=
list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process involved.=C2=A0 =
I've written a document containing what I'd like to say, but it'=
;s not formatted at all (it's literally a .txt file).=C2=A0 So I have a=
series of questions about it:<br><br>1. What format should such documents =
be written in?=C2=A0 I don't know HTML, Latex, or PostScript, but could=
learn if I had to.=C2=A0 Something tells me that Microsoft Word documents =
are <i>not</i> the preferred format.<br><br>2. What sort of consensus does =
this need to get prior to filing as a formal proposal?<br><br>3. Does this =
sort of thing need to go through CWG?<br><br>4. Do I need to get opinions f=
rom prominent people first?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Melissa<span class=3D"HOE=
nZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"=
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Hi Myriachan!
2017-03-02 20:49 GMT+01:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at least
> this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process involved.
A first guide is given here
https://isocpp.org/std/submit-a-proposal
but I confess that not answers are provided and some information
pieces are missing, so my general recommendation is to contact the
lwgchair address. Usually it will me who will respond to this kind of
request.
> I've written a document containing what I'd like to say, but it's not
> formatted at all (it's literally a .txt file). So I have a series of
> questions about it:
>
> 1. What format should such documents be written in? I don't know HTML,
> Latex, or PostScript, but could learn if I had to. Something tells me that
> Microsoft Word documents are not the preferred format.
The following formats are accepted:
1) pdf
2) html
3) plain text
With plain text we really mean plain text, not MarkDown for example
with an md extension.
> 2. What sort of consensus does this need to get prior to filing as a formal
> proposal?
I don't understand the question. The above quoted page recommends that
you discuss this here and try to get feedback. If you get in principle
positive feedback (Noone will control this, this is your own
judgement, not everyone needs to be happy), this is a good argument to
request a document number form the lwgchair address and proceed.
> 3. Does this sort of thing need to go through CWG?
It is surely reasonable to add CWG, but at first it should be looked
at by EWG. In the proposal there is now a new document header Audience
required, which allows a *list* of working/study groups. Just add both
of them.
> 4. Do I need to get opinions from prominent people first?
No, I would say it is sufficient when previous discussion on this
reflector gave you support for the idea.
If you have any further questions, just ask!
Thanks,
- Daniel
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> Hi Myriachan!
>
> 2017-03-02 20:49 GMT+01:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
>> I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at le=
ast
>> this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process involved.
>
> A first guide is given here
>
> https://isocpp.org/std/submit-a-proposal
>
> but I confess that not answers are provided and some information
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On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>
I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mail=
to:myriachan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">myriachan@gmail.com</a>></span=
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;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
1. What format should such documents be written in?</div></blockquote><div>=
<br></div><div>I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text=
:<br><<a href=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016=
/p0431r0.htm">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431=
r0.htm</a>>.=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>
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On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>>
>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>
>
> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
>
This is what I have so far:
https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Ros=
en wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: =
0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <span=
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-m=
ailto=3D"YzxTGvwQCgAJ" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'jav=
ascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';re=
turn true;">myri...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">1. What format should such docum=
ents be written in?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I wrote my doomed=
order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:<br><<a href=3D"http://www.o=
pen-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?=
q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers%2F2=
016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIomGkEqiimunr=
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papers%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIom=
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sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr>p0431r0.htm</a>>.=C2=A0</div></div></div=
></div></blockquote><div><br>This is what I have so far:<br><br>https://gis=
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Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it's a
harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so I'm
sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in for this week
(there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late) but Toronto's in
July so you might have time to arrange something.
Good luck!
2017-03-02 15:07 GMT-05:00 Hyman Rosen <hyman.rosen@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>
>
> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the ma=
iling, but it's a harder sell without a champion. There are people shar=
ing your views, so I'm sure it can be managed. I don't know if we&#=
39;ll fit it in for this week (there's about a day before we vote, so i=
t's a bit late) but Toronto's in July so you might have time to arr=
ange something.<br><br></div>Good luck!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-03-02 15:07 GMT-05:00 Hyman Rosen <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hyman.rosen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">hyman.rosen@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span=
class=3D"">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
;<a href=3D"mailto:myriachan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">myriachan@gmail.c=
om</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">1. What format should such documents be written in?</div></=
blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation=
proposal in plain text:<br><<a href=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc2=
2/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.open-std.=
org/jtc1/<wbr>sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr>p0431r0.htm</a>>.=C2=A0</d=
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On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:51:40 PM UTC-5, Myriachan wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>>
>>
>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
>>
>
> This is what I have so far:
>
> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
>
>
Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown is pretty good
and simple to use. And with a tool like Pandoc
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Pandoc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8>, you can convert
it to various other markup forms.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:51:40 PM UTC-5, My=
riachan wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-l=
eft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a r=
el=3D"nofollow">myri...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">1. What format should such d=
ocuments be written in?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I wrote my do=
omed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:<br><<a href=3D"http://w=
ww.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/=
url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers=
%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIomGkEqii=
munrRcLCZUK_muA';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.g=
oogle.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdoc=
s%2Fpapers%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSx=
cIomGkEqiimunrRcLCZUK_muA';return true;">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/<=
wbr>sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr>p0431r0.htm</a>>.=C2=A0</div></div><=
/div></div></blockquote><div><br>This is what I have so far:<br><br><a href=
=3D"https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'https://www=
..google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMyriachan%2Fe896d78254=
da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbn=
dbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'https://www=
..google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMyriachan%2Fe896d78254=
da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbn=
dbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;">https://gist.github.com/<wbr>Myriachan/=
<wbr>e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef<wbr>83</a><br>=C2=A0</div></div></block=
quote><div><br>Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown i=
s pretty good and simple to use. And with a tool like <a href=3D"https://ww=
w.google.com/search?q=3DPandoc&ie=3Dutf-8&oe=3Dutf-8">Pandoc</a>, y=
ou can convert it to various other markup forms.<br></div></div>
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2017-03-02 21:51 GMT+01:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>
>>
>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
>
>
> This is what I have so far:
>
> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
You need to provide an author name to the document header, e.g. Myriachan.
- Daniel
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2017-03-02 22:00 GMT+01:00 Nicol Bolas <jmckesson@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:51:40 PM UTC-5, Myriachan wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>>
>>>
>>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
>>
>>
>> This is what I have so far:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
>>
>
> Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown is pretty good
> and simple to use. And with a tool like Pandoc, you can convert it to
> various other markup forms.
I double-checked and we don't accept .md files. Of-course you could
write a .txt file that takes advantage of some MarkDown features, but
the rule is that for plain text formats no specific viewer is required
to interpret it.
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On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:51:40 PM UTC+1, Myriachan wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>>>
>>
>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>.
>>
>
> This is what I have so far:
>
> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
>
>
A quick way to get reasonably nice formatted code examples is to write in
markdown and use pandoc to translate this to html or pdf (requires a LaTeX
installation, but no LaTeX knowledge on your part). In general, the PDF
version is more robust to non-ASCII characters such as the Daniel Krugler's
surname (sorry, Umlaut not easy to type on this machine).
Examples
https://github.com/rhalbersma/xstd/blob/master/doc/N4254.md
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4254.html
https://github.com/rhalbersma/xstd/blob/master/doc/P0330R0.md
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0330r0.pdf
Note that I got feedback from Walter E. Brown on my first draft to number
sections, give a change history (only relevant for revisions) and much
more. He also was generous enough to offer to present it to the Committee,
which he did on two occasions now. Either being present yourself or having
a presenter for a paper is essential for a proposal to move forward. Such a
person can be someone on std-proposals who reacts favorably to your draft,
or you could approach someone who write similar proposals (e.g. an author
of a previous attribute proposal).
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:51:40 PM UTC+1, My=
riachan wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-l=
eft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a r=
el=3D"nofollow">myri...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">1. What format should such d=
ocuments be written in?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I wrote my do=
omed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:<br><<a href=3D"http://w=
ww.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/=
url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers=
%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIomGkEqii=
munrRcLCZUK_muA';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.g=
oogle.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdoc=
s%2Fpapers%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSx=
cIomGkEqiimunrRcLCZUK_muA';return true;">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/<=
wbr>sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr>p0431r0.htm</a>>.=C2=A0</div></div><=
/div></div></blockquote><div><br>This is what I have so far:<br><br><a href=
=3D"https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'https://www=
..google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMyriachan%2Fe896d78254=
da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbn=
dbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'https://www=
..google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMyriachan%2Fe896d78254=
da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbn=
dbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;">https://gist.github.com/<wbr>Myriachan/=
<wbr>e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef<wbr>83</a><br>=C2=A0</div></div></block=
quote><div><br></div><div>A quick way to get reasonably nice formatted code=
examples is to write in markdown and use pandoc to translate this to html =
or pdf (requires a LaTeX installation, but no LaTeX knowledge on your part)=
.. In general, the PDF version is more robust to non-ASCII characters such a=
s the Daniel Krugler's surname (sorry, Umlaut not easy to type on this =
machine).</div><div><br></div><div>Examples</div><div>https://github.com/rh=
albersma/xstd/blob/master/doc/N4254.md<br></div><div>http://www.open-std.or=
g/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4254.html<br></div><div>https://github.c=
om/rhalbersma/xstd/blob/master/doc/P0330R0.md<br></div><div>http://www.open=
-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0330r0.pdf<br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>Note that I got feedback from Walter E. Brown on my first draft to n=
umber sections, give a change history (only relevant for revisions) and muc=
h more. He also was generous enough to offer to present it to the Committee=
, which he did on two occasions now. Either being present yourself or havin=
g a presenter for a paper is essential for a proposal to move forward. Such=
a person can be someone on std-proposals who reacts favorably to your draf=
t, or you could approach someone who write similar proposals (e.g. an autho=
r of a previous attribute proposal).=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:00:14 PM UTC-8, Patrice Roy wrote:
>
> Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it's a
> harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so I'm
> sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in for this week
> (there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late) but Toronto's in
> July so you might have time to arrange something.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
Oh, I had no intention of trying for that meeting (Kona, Hawaii?). I
thought it was too late to submit to it anyway. I could try for that
Toronto meeting.
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y wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0=
..8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it's a =
harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so I&#=
39;m sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in for th=
is week (there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late) bu=
t Toronto's in July so you might have time to arrange something.<br><br=
></div>Good luck!<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br>Oh, I had n=
o intention of trying for that meeting (Kona, Hawaii?).=C2=A0 I thought it =
was too late to submit to it anyway.=C2=A0 I could try for that Toronto mee=
ting.<br><br>Melissa <br></div></div>
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2017-03-02 22:09 GMT+01:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:00:14 PM UTC-8, Patrice Roy wrote:
>>
>> Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it's a
>> harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so I'm
>> sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in for this week
>> (there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late) but Toronto's in
>> July so you might have time to arrange something.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>
> Oh, I had no intention of trying for that meeting (Kona, Hawaii?). I
> thought it was too late to submit to it anyway. I could try for that
> Toronto meeting.
OK, I didn't explain that part (I usually explain it when the actual
document allocation request is submitted): When you request a document
number via the lwgchair address (where we need the following three
tentative informational pieces: Title, Audience, and author list), the
next possible submission deadline is visible on this page:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/
Note that this also describes an UTC time point. From this deadline on
the next meeting is the first possible chance to present the proposal.
Regarding usage of "tentative" above: Between the number allocation
and the actual submission you can change any of the three information
pieces, but you should *proactively* inform us when actually
submitting about such a change.
Thanks,
- Daniel
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Sorry, I was unclear; I was replying to Hyman's message. His paper was
submitted on time. :)
2017-03-02 16:09 GMT-05:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:00:14 PM UTC-8, Patrice Roy wrote:
>>
>> Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it's a
>> harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so I'm
>> sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in for this week
>> (there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late) but Toronto's in
>> July so you might have time to arrange something.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
> Oh, I had no intention of trying for that meeting (Kona, Hawaii?). I
> thought it was too late to submit to it anyway. I could try for that
> Toronto meeting.
>
> Melissa
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, I was unclear; I was replying to Hyman's messag=
e. His paper was submitted on time. :)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-03-02 16:09 GMT-05:00 Myriachan <span d=
ir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:myriachan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">myr=
iachan@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"">On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:00:14 PM UTC-8, P=
atrice Roy wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin=
-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div>Did you get someone to present it? I saw it in the mailing, but it'=
s a harder sell without a champion. There are people sharing your views, so=
I'm sure it can be managed. I don't know if we'll fit it in fo=
r this week (there's about a day before we vote, so it's a bit late=
) but Toronto's in July so you might have time to arrange something.<br=
><br></div>Good luck!<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></span><div><br>=
Oh, I had no intention of trying for that meeting (Kona, Hawaii?).=C2=A0 I =
thought it was too late to submit to it anyway.=C2=A0 I could try for that =
Toronto meeting.<br><br>Melissa <br></div></div><span class=3D"">
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> >>>=20
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> >>>>=20
> >>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?=20
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> >>>=20
> >>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:=20
> >>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm>=
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> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> This is what I have so far:=20
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> >> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83=20
> >>=20
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> > Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown is pretty=20
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> I double-checked and we don't accept .md files. Of-course you could=20
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> the rule is that for plain text formats no specific viewer is required=20
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I didn't mean to provide it as Markdown. You'd write it in Markdown, then=
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Also, Markdown is *designed* to be legible as plain-text.
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niel Kr=C3=BCgler wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">2017-0=
3-02 22:00 GMT+01:00 Nicol Bolas <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_bla=
nk" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"00jLqgQUCgAJ" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"=
this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'=
;javascript:';return true;">jmck...@gmail.com</a>>:
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:51:40 PM UTC-5, Myriachan wrote:
<br>>>
<br>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen w=
rote:
<br>>>>
<br>>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <<a>myri...@g=
mail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain te=
xt:
<br>>>> <<a href=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs=
/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D=
"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.=
org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26sa\x3dD\x2=
6sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIomGkEqiimunrRcLCZUK_muA';return true;" =
onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww=
..open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fpapers%2F2016%2Fp0431r0.htm\x26=
sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGSxcIomGkEqiimunrRcLCZUK_muA';retu=
rn true;">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/<wbr>sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<wbr=
>p0431r0.htm</a>>.
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> This is what I have so far:
<br>>>
<br>>> <a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c=
505fed5d4f5ef83" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.hre=
f=3D'https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMy=
riachan%2Fe896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x=
3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbndbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;" onclick=3D"this.hre=
f=3D'https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2FMy=
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3dAFQjCNEexSkrPFLMbndbl3WMqz1_LzH7EQ';return true;">https://gist.github=
..com/<wbr>Myriachan/<wbr>e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef<wbr>83</a>
<br>>>
<br>>
<br>> Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown is pret=
ty good
<br>> and simple to use. And with a tool like Pandoc, you can convert it=
to
<br>> various other markup forms.
<br>
<br>I double-checked and we don't accept .md files. Of-course you could
<br>write a .txt file that takes advantage of some MarkDown features, but
<br>the rule is that for plain text formats no specific viewer is required
<br>to interpret it.
<br></blockquote><div><br>I didn't mean to provide it as Markdown. You&=
#39;d write it in Markdown, then convert it to HTML.<br></div><br>Also, Mar=
kdown is <i>designed</i> to be legible as plain-text.<br></div>
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2017-03-02 22:26 GMT+01:00 Nicol Bolas <jmckesson@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 4:03:36 PM UTC-5, Daniel Kr=C3=BCgler wrote=
:
>>
>> 2017-03-02 22:00 GMT+01:00 Nicol Bolas <jmck...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:51:40 PM UTC-5, Myriachan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-8, Hyman Rosen wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Myriachan <myri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. What format should such documents be written in?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I wrote my doomed order-of-evaluation proposal in plain text:
>> >>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0431r0.htm=
>.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is what I have so far:
>> >>
>> >> https://gist.github.com/Myriachan/e896d78254da4968c505fed5d4f5ef83
>> >>
>> >
>> > Have you considered some form of markup language? Markdown is pretty
>> > good
>> > and simple to use. And with a tool like Pandoc, you can convert it to
>> > various other markup forms.
>>
>> I double-checked and we don't accept .md files. Of-course you could
>> write a .txt file that takes advantage of some MarkDown features, but
>> the rule is that for plain text formats no specific viewer is required
>> to interpret it.
>
>
> I didn't mean to provide it as Markdown. You'd write it in Markdown, then
> convert it to HTML.
<nod> I was overreacting when I read "Have you considered some form of
markup language? Markdown is pretty good" and didn't carefully read
the rest of what you wrote.
> Also, Markdown is designed to be legible as plain-text.
Sure, but when I would simply agree to that sentence, I'll promise you
that we get lots of .md files submitted which we don't wish to accept.
And yes, I described the Markdown as plain-text option, but personally
I don't recommend it.
- Daniel
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In addition to following the suggestions in that link,
I use markdown, see github.com/tvaneerd/isocpp
I convert it to PDF via markdowntopdf.com
I highly recommend 'before/after' tables. ie on th left show what C++17 cod=
e to solve the problem looks like, and what C++20 code with your addition w=
ould look like on the right.=C2=A0
(that might seem like overkill for an attribute, but it still helps. See gi=
thub.com/tvaneerd/cpp17_in_TTs/attributes.md. )
Hopefully before/after tables will be added to the canonical example propos=
al some day. They really help encapsulate=C2=A0
-summary
-syntax
-motivation
(Sadly, MD doesn't do tables with code very well. I'm still looking for a b=
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From: Daniel Kr=C3=BCgler
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:02 PM
To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Reply To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Subject: Re: [std-proposals] How do I make one of those proposal documents?
Hi Myriachan!
2017-03-02 20:49 GMT+01:00 Myriachan <myriachan@gmail.com>:
> I wanted to write up the [[unreachable]] attribute proposal, since at lea=
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> this mailing list didn't hate it, but I don't know the process involved.
A first guide is given here
https://isocpp.org/std/submit-a-proposal
but I confess that not answers are provided and some information
pieces are missing, so my general recommendation is to contact the
lwgchair address. Usually it will me who will respond to this kind of
request.
> I've written a document containing what I'd like to say, but it's not
> formatted at all (it's literally a .txt file). So I have a series of
> questions about it:
>
> 1. What format should such documents be written in? I don't know HTML,
> Latex, or PostScript, but could learn if I had to. Something tells me tha=
t
> Microsoft Word documents are not the preferred format.
The following formats are accepted:
1) pdf
2) html
3) plain text
With plain text we really mean plain text, not MarkDown for example
with an md extension.
> 2. What sort of consensus does this need to get prior to filing as a form=
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> proposal?
I don't understand the question. The above quoted page recommends that
you discuss this here and try to get feedback. If you get in principle
positive feedback (Noone will control this, this is your own
judgement, not everyone needs to be happy), this is a good argument to
request a document number form the lwgchair address and proceed.
> 3. Does this sort of thing need to go through CWG?
It is surely reasonable to add CWG, but at first it should be looked
at by EWG. In the proposal there is now a new document header Audience
required, which allows a *list* of working/study groups. Just add both
of them.
> 4. Do I need to get opinions from prominent people first?
No, I would say it is sufficient when previous discussion on this
reflector gave you support for the idea.
If you have any further questions, just ask!
Thanks,
- Daniel
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