Topic: lecture on loops in cpp 2
Author: pvr.ram34@gmail.com
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Author: Jake Arkinstall <jake.arkinstall@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:09:56 +0000
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This is not the place for C++ basics. It's for proposals to help evolve the
language.
Also note that you are teaching an outdated style which *must not* be
encouraged. You shouldn't be declaring your loop variables out of the for
init statement unless you have a good reason to keep it in scope outside of
the loop, you certainly shouldn't be using include <iostream.h> (that has
long been deprecated and doesn't even have a mention in the standard), you
should use include <iostream> instead. Your indentation also makes the code
awkward to read.
It's great that you're putting in an effort to teach people, but please
make sure you're teaching properly or you might do more harm than good.
On 5 Mar 2018 12:58, <pvr.ram34@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://unacademy.com/lesson/for-loop/D8JKVXRK
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<div dir=3D"auto">This is not the place for C++ basics. It's for propos=
als to help evolve the language.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Also note that you are teaching an outdated style which <b>must not</b> =
be encouraged. You shouldn't be declaring your loop variables out of th=
e for init statement unless you have a good reason to keep it in scope outs=
ide of the loop, you certainly shouldn't be using include <iostream.=
h> (that has long been deprecated and doesn't even have a mention in=
the standard), you should use include <iostream> instead. Your inden=
tation also makes the code awkward to read.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">It's great that you're putting in an effort to =
teach people, but please make sure you're teaching properly or you migh=
t do more harm than good.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On 5 Mar 2018 12:58, <<a href=3D"mailto:pvr.ram34@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">pvr.ram34@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"a=
ttribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"https://unacademy.com=
/lesson/for-loop/D8JKVXRK" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://una=
cademy.com/lesson/f<wbr>or-loop/D8JKVXRK</a><br>
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Author: David Brown <david@westcontrol.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:56:37 +0100
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On 05/03/18 14:09, Jake Arkinstall wrote:
> This is not the place for C++ basics. It's for proposals to help evolve
> the language.
>
> Also note that you are teaching an outdated style which *must not* be
> encouraged. You shouldn't be declaring your loop variables out of the
> for init statement unless you have a good reason to keep it in scope
> outside of the loop, you certainly shouldn't be using include
> <iostream.h> (that has long been deprecated and doesn't even have a
> mention in the standard), you should use include <iostream> instead.
> Your indentation also makes the code awkward to read.
>
> It's great that you're putting in an effort to teach people, but please
> make sure you're teaching properly or you might do more harm than good.
>
The poster is spamming a wide range of newsgroups and mailing lists.
Don't expect the OP to respond to your post here, or even to read it.
Comments here are just to alert other readers of this list to the problem.
I haven't looked at the site myself, but other people have - it has
nothing to recommend it. The site doesn't even seem to be sure if it is
C or C++ it is trying to teach.
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Author: Ray W <raymonwhite42@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 15:05:55 +0000
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Not to mention, the indentation of his code is horrendous. Although the OP
probably has good intent, this is definitely proliferating bad practice.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:56 PM, David Brown <david@westcontrol.com> wrote:
> On 05/03/18 14:09, Jake Arkinstall wrote:
> > This is not the place for C++ basics. It's for proposals to help evolve
> > the language.
> >
> > Also note that you are teaching an outdated style which *must not* be
> > encouraged. You shouldn't be declaring your loop variables out of the
> > for init statement unless you have a good reason to keep it in scope
> > outside of the loop, you certainly shouldn't be using include
> > <iostream.h> (that has long been deprecated and doesn't even have a
> > mention in the standard), you should use include <iostream> instead.
> > Your indentation also makes the code awkward to read.
> >
> > It's great that you're putting in an effort to teach people, but please
> > make sure you're teaching properly or you might do more harm than good.
> >
>
> The poster is spamming a wide range of newsgroups and mailing lists.
> Don't expect the OP to respond to your post here, or even to read it.
> Comments here are just to alert other readers of this list to the problem.
>
> I haven't looked at the site myself, but other people have - it has
> nothing to recommend it. The site doesn't even seem to be sure if it is
> C or C++ it is trying to teach.
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Not to mention, the indentation of his code is horrendous.=
Although the OP probably has good intent, this is definitely=C2=A0prolifer=
ating bad practice.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:56 PM, David Brown <span dir=3D"ltr"><<=
a href=3D"mailto:david@westcontrol.com" target=3D"_blank">david@westcontrol=
..com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 05/03/18 14=
:09, Jake Arkinstall wrote:<br>
> This is not the place for C++ basics. It's for proposals to help e=
volve<br>
> the language.<br>
><br>
> Also note that you are teaching an outdated style which *must not* be<=
br>
> encouraged. You shouldn't be declaring your loop variables out of =
the<br>
> for init statement unless you have a good reason to keep it in scope<b=
r>
> outside of the loop, you certainly shouldn't be using include<br>
> <iostream.h> (that has long been deprecated and doesn't even=
have a<br>
> mention in the standard), you should use include <iostream> inst=
ead.<br>
> Your indentation also makes the code awkward to read.<br>
><br>
> It's great that you're putting in an effort to teach people, b=
ut please<br>
> make sure you're teaching properly or you might do more harm than =
good.<br>
><br>
<br>
The poster is spamming a wide range of newsgroups and mailing lists.<br>
Don't expect the OP to respond to your post here, or even to read it.<b=
r>
Comments here are just to alert other readers of this list to the problem.<=
br>
<br>
I haven't looked at the site myself, but other people have - it has<br>
nothing to recommend it.=C2=A0 The site doesn't even seem to be sure if=
it is<br>
C or C++ it is trying to teach.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
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On 05/03/18 16:05, Ray W wrote:
> Not to mention, the indentation of his code is horrendous. Although the
> OP probably has good intent, this is definitely proliferating bad practice.
>
His "good intent" is to earn money selling courses on C++. There is
nothing wrong with earning money from teaching or making courses - but
there /is/ something wrong with it if you don't know the stuff you are
trying to teach, and have such low quality and bad advice. And there is
certainly something wrong with spamming it on mailing lists and Usenet
groups.
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He is clearly spamming, I see a post like this every day for the last few
days. He should be banned.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:03 PM, David Brown <david@westcontrol.com> wrote:
> On 05/03/18 16:05, Ray W wrote:
> > Not to mention, the indentation of his code is horrendous. Although the
> > OP probably has good intent, this is definitely proliferating bad
> practice.
> >
>
> His "good intent" is to earn money selling courses on C++. There is
> nothing wrong with earning money from teaching or making courses - but
> there /is/ something wrong with it if you don't know the stuff you are
> trying to teach, and have such low quality and bad advice. And there is
> certainly something wrong with spamming it on mailing lists and Usenet
> groups.
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">He is clearly spamming, I see a post like this every day f=
or the last few days. He should be banned.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:03 PM, David Brown=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:david@westcontrol.com" target=3D"_=
blank">david@westcontrol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 05/03/18 16:05, Ray W wrote:<br>
> Not to mention, the indentation of his code is horrendous. Although th=
e<br>
> OP probably has good intent, this is definitely proliferating bad prac=
tice.<br>
><br>
<br>
</span>His "good intent" is to earn money selling courses on C++.=
=C2=A0 There is<br>
nothing wrong with earning money from teaching or making courses - but<br>
there /is/ something wrong with it if you don't know the stuff you are<=
br>
trying to teach, and have such low quality and bad advice.=C2=A0 And there =
is<br>
certainly something wrong with spamming it on mailing lists and Usenet<br>
groups.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
<br>
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